-Vitali's Hide ko was ridicolous. Plus Bowe fought the better version Hide. -Vitali knocked Purrity out by cut.This ko is nothing to do with the power.Cleveland Woods destroyed Purriy easily.Woods is 14-19 fighter with a fantastic 30% ko percentage. -Darroll Wilson destroyed the prime Briggs easily.Overweight Briggs went the distance with Klitschko.
Vitali knocked out ,one man of any class.Herbie Hide! And he was on his feet at the time of the stoppage. A ringing endorsement from you is akin to a death sentence!lol
yeh its obvious vits is not a power puncher. hes agg. shame given the extra body weight he carries means if he was more skilled he could in theory land harder - though whether that would leave him open to getting ktfo himself is another matter.
Yeah, I'd agree with all that. Foreman couldn't drop Savarese and Tyson sparked him. Does that make Foreman's power overrated? It is. Shavers also caught Ali with a ton of hard leather and never floored him either. Considering his rep that's quite telling as well. Both opponents incidentally went on to claim that the man punching them was the hardest puncher they'd ever faced. Not sure where you're getting those numbers from. Shavers knocked out 68 opponents in 89 fights, Vitali knocked out 41 opponents in 47 fights. But regardless of the actual numbers this is precisely the type of argument that pro-Vitali supporters use to overrate his punching power, which you moaned about above. Stats never tell the whole story and I hope you're not going to use them as the cornerstone of your argument, especially if you're getting them wrong.
Yeah, about as hard as Hasim Rahman from the looks of it. Sit down and shut up. Your argument is pathetic. Awarded by whom? You? Go ahead you gibbering buffoon.
I've seen Shavers vs Ali multiple times. It's one of my favourite Shavers's performances, and he was extremely unlucky not to get the decision in my view. And while Ali didn't stand in front of Shavers all night, he didn't do much else either. His reflexes were so shot by that time that he couldn't avoid Shavers's right hand, and he didn't have the legs to stay out of the corners where Shavers teed off on him. He was essentially a semi-mobile punchbag that night. I've never said Shavers lacked power. For a 210 guy he could really crack, and his multiple knockdowns against larger and hard chinned opponents are testimony to that. I have to disagree on your saying that Ali played possum. He did try to play possum, but he was also legitimately hurt on numerous occasions. I think Shavers was aware of this since Ali wasn't exactly subtle; he just wasn't quite good enough to capitalise. Plus Ali was still tough as nails. Funny thing is Shannon Briggs listed Vitali as the hardest hitter he ever fought. Any thoughts on that? What do you think about the arguments in this thread so far? Think they take all this into account?
Knocked out as in counted ten over .Knocked out of time the original definition of a ko. I'm not getting them wrong and they are just a piece of an argument as to why Vitali is not an all time great puncher.
Do you think Briggs could take over 170 flush right hands from Wlad,Wilder,Joshua,Lewis,Louis,Dempsey,Foreman,Baer,without once going down? I believe Briggs actually said Vitali hit him harder than Foreman,which even if true ,is an entirely different thing. "By Jason Kim: Shannon Briggs (51-6-1, 45 KO’s) may have taken one too many blows to the head last Saturday night in his 12 round unanimous decision loss to WBC heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko (41-2, 38 KO’s), because after the fight, Briggs, with a face badly swollen from the many shots he had eaten in the fight, said this about Vitali: “I’ve fought George Foreman, I’ve fought Lennox Lewis and Vitali’s the best. He hits harder than Foreman, he’s got incredibly fast hands.” I saw the fight, and I while I do think Vitali landed some hard right hands, I wouldn’t put his power in the same class as George Foreman or Lennox Lewis. Those heavyweights appear to hit a lot harder than Vitali. Also, Vitali hardly has “incredibly fast hands.”He’s actually slow of hand. It may have seemed like Vitali was really fast to Briggs because he eat a lot of punches during the fight and he may have not been all there after the beating he took in the fight. Briggs did a poor job of blocking shots in the fight and he really has himself to blame for his poor showing. However, I think Briggs is way off in comparing the arm-punching Klitschko with Foreman or Lewis. Vitali isn’t even the biggest puncher in his family. His younger brother IBF/WBO heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko hits much harder than him and is a lot faster as well. " To put this in context. Archie Moore said Yvon Durelle and Curtess Shepard hit him harder than Marciano. Don C*ckell said several men hit him harder than Rocky. It isn't the same as saying someone is the hardest hitter is it?