Why does Golovkin gets criticism but Crawford doesn't

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  1. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Hes fought absolutely everyone at 160, you cant pull that apart..Crawford also hasn't dominated high level opposition like Loma...
     
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  2. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    excuses excuses...If Canelo had a better gas tank pmsl...Yeah, what if GGG was 5 years younger ??? Deal with the facts instead of dreaming of different scenario's
     
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  3. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I like GGG and thought he should have gotten the decision over Canelo. That said, when Crawford has faced his best opponents, he's produced his best performances. When GGG stepped up the level of competition, he's had closer fights than usual. That makes the difference for me in picking a number one p4p fighter.
     
  4. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    yeah but what if GGG'S opponents were tougher when he stepped up than Crawfords ?
     
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  5. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Both Crawford and GGG are excellent fighters and deserve to be in the positions they are in now. What separates them in the p4p category for me is that Crawford has the better overall skillset and he is a more versatile fighter. I think that if Crawford were in GGG's shoes in the Canelo fight, he would have solved that running problem that GGG had with Canelo and stopped him. If I had a choice of skillsets to take with me in the ring, I would choose Crawford's instead of GGG at any weight.
     
  6. Pretty Boy Floyd

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    Do you have selective hearing? I constantly hear people saying that GGG is not only p4p but is the greatest middle weight of all time and even ko's guy's at 175 like ward and kovalev.

    I also hear people constantly saying Crawford is overated and hasn't fought anybody either.

    I also hear people saying the complete opposite of the above as is evident from this very thread.

    This is the nature of boxing fan's its always been like this. If all you ever hear is " golovkin isn't p4p because his hasn't fought any elite fighter " you either have selective hearing, or you are a liar and have just started this thread to have another rant.
     
  7. HerolGee

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    hes a good bet for p4p now.

    it just depends on what he does in relation to the other prospective p4ps over the next six months that will determine whether he gets it.

    You watch, 3G will make his story himself.
     
  8. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    so, everyone struggles with good contenders or elites, unless they are some ATG god.
     
  9. charliem333

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    of course i know this but we are talking about who is pound for pound #1 and in my opinion its loma because he is dominating world class opponents while the others are struggling with Crawford #2 place as he has cleared out two divisions really and won the belts possible in his last fight and dominated a champion that was holding two world title belts.
     
  10. dougemerypm

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    Gamboa is undefeated Crawford knocks him down 5 times and stops fight. Postal is undefeated Crawford makes him look like an amateur. Diaz has one loss, a controversial decision to Lamont Peterson Crawford stops fight. Indongo undefeated Crawford stops him. Maybe the competition isn't "crappy" but Crawford is far superior. Mikey Garcia, Danny Garcia, and Broner want not piece of Crawford. Ask yourself why.
     
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  11. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    But Crawford has never faced a fighter on Canelo's level and arguably not Jacobs either.

    Plus, roles reversed Golovkin doesn't go the distance with guys of the Calibre of Ricky Burns.
     
  12. Odins beard

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    Gamboa had been on the shelf for 18 months if I'm not mistaken and was already done at top level, this can be seen with his results post Crawford.

    Postol was a good win over a good but nothing special fighter.

    As for losses, heavyweight Brian Nielsen went 50+ fights I think without a loss, it's the quality of the victories that counts.
     
  13. HerolGee

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    hes fought lots of jacobs decent contenders, but he hasnt yet fought an elite, you are very right on that part.

    not sure ricky would get stopped by 3g when rickster was prime. Despite a middling set of skills, everyone would agree that Rick was a very tough guy. 3G would batter him bad though for sure. P4P obviously, in case smoe bozo want to butt in about weight divisions.
     
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  14. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

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    So you're little shelved point should nullify Lomachenko's win against Walters, correct?

    You're turning out to be a deluded fanboy. You talk about poor competition yet give G a pass. Crappy weight classes but want to act like Cotto didn't abuse the middleweight division and now Canelo will be its champion in less than a year time. The middleweight division is poor and has been for a very long time.

    Crawford isn't a 35 year old man whose stayed in one horrible weight division and has only seen the 12th round twice in his entire career coincidentally when he's faced his best and only elite competition.

    Crawford is already more versatile in skill and as you and others have said for Golovkin, fought whoever was available. Did it in more weight classes and is continuing to climb.

    Crawford deserves p4p number 1 over G easily. The only reason outlets such as Ring mag, HBO and ESPN are even pushing G as p4p 1 is to keep the rematch with Canelo relevant. It's called damage control for an overnight "old and deteriorating" fighter that can't possibly live up to the hype.

    They did the same stuff for Manny Pacquiao when he was starting to slip. This is nothing new.
     
  15. Odins beard

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    It doesn't nullify any point regarding Lomachenko/Walters.

    Walters was on the shelf for 11 months....Gamboa 12.5 months, both where dominant performances, Lomachenko's was better imo.

    Crawford has ruled 2 divisions in their worst stage I can think of in the last decade, he's beaten true paper champions....fighters who wouldn't be title holders at any other time, not Crawfords fault he's dominated but so he should.

    Golovkin is 35, he is on the slide and if you don't think so then YDKSAB....which I think applies to you.
     
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