Anthony Joshua vs Muhammad Ali who wins this super fight?

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Anthony Joshua vs Muhammad Ali who wins?

  1. Anthony Joshua

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  2. Muhammad Ali

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  1. James Smith

    James Smith Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Whyte is 6'4, compared to Ali 6'2.
    If Whyte was lean he would be about 235 pounds. Compared to Ali at 210 pounds.
     
  2. john roberts

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    Are you talking about cooper when Ali was only 21 or 22 years old not taking is opponent seriously clowning around and getting caught with one of the best left hook punches in the business if you are just because cooper was only 180lbs doesn’t make you not have as much power as an heavier man example shavers,Tyson, Frazier all have more one punch power than a large percentage of these slow ponderous super heavies who are 240 to 250lbs and then of course when Ali did stop messing around he pasted him and cut him to ribbons ( they all make mistakes when young fighters bud ) it’s how you deal with it and we know how that turned out don’t we
     
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  4. john roberts

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    My main argument isn’t just stamina but definitely one first of all the fight with Klitschko the punch ratio wasn’t that high it just looked it because it’s the most exciting fight in years because the really big men don’t normally throw hardly any because they are too heavy there’s no getting away from the fact Joshua nearly knocked himself out throwing a combination to put Klitschko away and if it wasn’t for the fact Klitschko( not even a top ten fighter of all time)was a 41 year old coming off the back of a loss fighter, against a 27 year old in his prime he would have been in big trouble and that’s his acid test fight a 41 year old has been he just scraped by don’t make me laugh, Ali only sat on his stool when he would have been in a 15 round war with another prime hall of famer otherwise most of the time he would have stood up or looked fresh as daisy when he fought lesser opponents especially in the first 20 fights or so when we all know most boxers are brought through carefully with mainly tomato cans or let’s say opponents they are probably going to beat that includes Ali , Joshua, Tyson all the big names it’s what they do with defining fights, Joshua has been fed tomato cans and his so called defining fights haven’t really come yet he was wobbled by overweight Dillian Whyte and nearly lost to I will say it again 41 year old has been now you accuse me of making Ali into some kind of super hero the fact you feel Joshua would not be hurt or driven back or cover up from a 6ft 3 220lb fighter with the fastest foot speed ever and one of the 3 fastest hand speed heavies other two Tyson , Patterson, his a joke making it sound like Joshua is a beast of unparalleled power and Ali and every other heavy under 240lbs punches would bounce off like a pea shooter against Godzilla you have seen the weights the other guy posted of Ali stop trying to make out he a midget he’s 6ft 3 and 215 to 225 has you tried to point out that punches take it out of you in a fight Ali would have hit Joshua far more often than Klitschko again slow ponderous 250lb 41 year old , alis punches wouldn’t have bounced off like a pea shooter
    against Godzilla and Joshua walking through him like these chumps he has fought (a 6ft 6 240lb chump is still a chump just a bigger and slower chump the accumulative punches would eventually tell and Joshua would get stopped on cuts or by t k o like a lot of ali fights all the power in the world does not do you no good if you can’t hit flush and Joshua would not hit flush and he would have got hit more often Ali beat 7 hall of famers all different style of fighters, power punchers taller smaller longer reach heavier lighter adaptability along with his chin which was tested guile and brain makes him the package that Joshua isn’t yet and the percentage of people who think Ali would win in this poll is almost double and that’s testament to most of what I have said I’m working with facts because Ali’s career is complete and Joshua’s isn’t
     
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  5. HerolGee

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    ali yeah but which superfight?
     
  6. HerolGee

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    just a bad idea in a cardio sport.
     
  7. James Smith

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    Really? Then name all the 6'2 210 pound heavyweights in the top 50? Waiting?
     
  8. LANCE99

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    Oh yeah....you surely aren't trolling with crap like this...
     
  9. James Smith

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    Why? When has Ali ever felt a solid jab, like the one Joshua uses that pushes opponents backwards and off balance.
     
  10. James Smith

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    Ali was hit flush a lot. The impossible to hit Ali is a myth, you only need to watch his fights to see that.

    Joshua would hit him flush, Ali would be hurt badly and stopped by Joshua's relentless power punching combinations. I give Ali 6 rounds tops, but he would probably last far less.
     
  11. john roberts

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    hes Not but so what if he was Holyfield is only 6ft2 and light but beat bowe 6ft5 240lbs Chris Byrd 6ft 2 beat Klitschko I have loads of these examples and none of them have Ali’s attributes I fail to see your point
     
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  12. john roberts

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    Not in his prime before exile he never got hit flush and we are talking primes aren’t we see my other latest post for more reasons why it wouldn’t happen
     
  13. James Smith

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    A much smaller man beating a bigger man with similar skills is very rare.
    Even one of your two examples had nothing to do with the smaller man being the better man, but the bigger man Vitali being injured.

    My point is name all the 6'2 210 pound heavyweights in the top 50. There are none because they can not compete against these much bigger stronger boxers.
     
  14. James Smith

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    He got hit flush often before exile just watch his fights. AJ would land and stop him.
     
  15. john roberts

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    These fighters you are talking
    the reason fighters are larger now is because they don’t have to fight 15 rounds like in Ali’s day if they did they would have to slim down and be a lot lighter there were 6ft5 6ft 6 fighters in Ali day around 225lbs but still too slow for Ali that’s why super heavies didn’t arrive till late 80s early 90s when dropped the rounds to 10 or 12 rounds max that’s why any super gets taken to later rounds by lighter fighters mentioned earlier they gas and lose that’s why there are no 210lb fighters waiting because they only have to fight 10 rounds and 12 for championship fights so they can get away by being slow ponderous fatties or giant gym fools