Why does Golovkin gets criticism but Crawford doesn't

I agree that Burns is one tough mofo, but in a hypothetical match up between him and GGG he'd imo have nothing to keep Golovkin off him, a type of Murray beat down is what I'd imagine.

 

You're a fanboy and can't be taken seriously. Walters was shelved after he was robbed a victory against Sosa (another victory that has to be taken into context, same as Marriaga) and had to lose around 45 pounds before his lowballed fight against Loma lmao

He was beat before he even entered the ring but of course you offer a pass.

G is 35 but he's only seen the 11th round once and the 12th twice in his professional career but middleweight isn't trash. Not only is he probably the most limited fighter skill wise in the top 10, but he's barely been challenged while being the oldest.

You're fanboy logic turns on itself at every turn.

 

If the Walters fight was so bad then what do you call Gamboa?

He was having his 3rd fight in 3 years, been shelved for 1 2.5 months, only his 2nd fight at 135 because he couldn't get his stubby fat arse in the gym, he was 5'5 with T Rex arms and 33 years old.....yet no doubt this is a solid win to you?

You still can't admit that the divisions Crawford ruled where the weakest they'd been in years....LMFAO and I'm the fanboy....

 

You have no real rebuttal and in hypocrite fanboy fashion, you can't admit the middleweight division is the weakest it's been in years and that Crawford is far more versatile than GGG and has challenged himself more.

 

I give Crawford the nod because he moved up seeking better opposition. GGG, I feel, could have challenged Ward when he was at 168 and maybe even Kovalev at 175. Instead GGG chose to stay to fight at MW where there was very little in challenges calling out small guys like Floyd and Canelo (though Canelo had no business calling himself MW champ for fighting at catchweights). GGG, of course has the right to campaign at MW for as long as he wishes as did Hopkins. As a fan, I would have like to seen GGG move up like Ward did. GGG vs Eubank Jr is another good fight that I would favor GGG.

 

Quality of wins, you say...?

Gamboa had previously won an interim title at lightweight against Perez back in 2013, which established himself as a top 10 guy at lightweight at the very least. His performance in the Crawford fight was the last time he performed close to his best, and he still wound up suffering a four KD defeat that ultimately seemed to ruin him.

Postol may have been nothing special, but he was coming off a victory over a still highly regarded Matthyse.

Indongo was coming off two high profile victories on the road and was undefeated and partially unified.

Beltran was on a nice run (and remains on a nice run) following his shutout loss to Crawford.

Burns wound up bagging another title and at the very least has remained competitive against anyone he's faced after getting dominated in the last nine rounds or so of the fight.

I don't think those wins look that bad.

Again, I like GGG and defend him- and I will certainly admit that Canelo resides on a higher plane than just about anyone Crawford has faced (Gamboa could have maybe reached that plane had his career not gone off the rails), but I don't think it does any of his fans good to criticize the body of work of another fighter. You look at the guys faced and how they perform and then rate them- with the understanding that the rating may change depending on who they face and how they look the next time out.

 

You never asked me my thoughts on the 160 division.....so how could I answer?

Okay here we go.....the 160 division is no weaker now than when Hopkins was champion, if anything it's probably better.....that good enough for you.

Now to the **** poor 135/140 divisions that Crawford was champeen in.....they where poor.....very poor, 135 at the time was horrendous and 140 is only slightly better.

Crawford is an excellent fighter, too good for the horrendous divisions he's fought in and just because he's moved up from one weak division to another foes not equate to challenging himself especially when he was massive at 135 and struggling to make weight.

Now are you going to admit that 135 and 140 where poor when he was champion?

 

So you think they are quality fighters?

Gamboa was shelved for 1 2.5 months and fought 3 times in 3 years and was 33. A good win but one expected don't you think?

Postol was a good win.

Indongo, Beltran and Burns are weak my friend....they wouldn't be champions in any other era at 135/140.

Let me clarify I'm not hating on Crawford, he's an excellent fighter top 4 P4P imo.....but the guys with a problem with GGG and his resume etc are 99% of tge time tge same guys who champion Crawford as though he's doing something against elite level fighters which is not the case. ....147 is where he'll settle and establish a legacy.

 

He owned you. You have no real rebuttal again and you cannot give examples like he did. You need to go to bed.

Your fighter has only seen the 11th round once and the 12th twice. Yes I'm repeating myself because you never address this fact but try to deflect. Take a break. The only people rating G higher in p4p regards are those with investment.

 

You are repeating yourself because YOU YOURSELF have nothing to come back at me with.

You are still skipping answering my question regarding the 135/140 divisions.....I wont hold my breath.

 

The funniest part of it is that haters of one is the advocates of the other, and vice versa.

 

That's already been addressed in this thread multiple times. It's no secret Postol and Idongo were being touted as the guys who were going to expose Crawford as a hypejob.

The only guy I saw who called bull**** on Idongo was intentional but. The rest of you were cheering both guys. Now you're all trying to act like these were cherry picks.

Those divisions were both better than the middleweight division. Crawford was challenged more and when on the big stage has delivered better performances.

Andy Lee, Lemieux, Murray, Macklin, BJS, they're weak fringe opponents. So is DJ who you guys are only praising now (you all predicted him to be an easy KO) because he gave you're guy a tough fight.

Cotto took advantage of the middleweight division and I'm telling you, Canelo is the best fighter at 160 right now. It's a trash division and has been for years far worse than 135 and 140. Crawford is a real monster. Not a fake one like your guy is all. He doesn't need excuses for his performances because he executes.

You're guy pressures with a pawing jab without going to the body. It's a pathetic tactic to try to theatrically look busy instead of being effective because he's a very limited fighter.

The bar is raised for Crawford. The bar is constantly lowered for GGG.

BWAA rightfully has Crawford above G. I don't care about whose one but G is truly not a p4p fighter. He goes tooth and nail with 154 pounders that even dates back as far as Ouma.

An excuse has been employed as every kink has been exposed. These excuses have been that he lost his luggage. His opponent throws tinks, tinks, (which is ironic because that was his gameplan against Canelo)
Brook is a street fighter when we all know Brook is a textbook square boxer.

He eluded he intentionally let himself look bad against DJ to secure the Canelo fight. Today it's Canelo isn't a real Mexican and moves. The only other guy I've seen with worse excuses regarded as a top p4p fighter is Manny Pacquiao.

G is smoke and mirrors and he's a disgrace to the true Mexican style. Even when having Saul against the ropes he was tentative and the only combinations I saw him mostly throw was a rapid pump jab with no power on it.

I know it's still early and you guys are feeling good right now since you're all mind screwing yourselves into believing a draw is a victory for your heralded John Cena.

I'm not even tripping now because I've been through this before with fanboys. You already give excuses for G getting old. As we get closer to the rematch you and the rest of you will be giving more excuses.

BTW Bhop would've mopped the floor with today's middleweights at age 35 lmao

Thst includes Canelo.

 

Hopkins was still fighting an epic trilogy for the IBF title at 35 against Robert Allen....ROBERT ALLEN FFS.

Nobody picked Indongo to beat Crawford and if everyone did like you claim show me the proof or STFU.

135/140 where weaker than 160 this isn't up for debate.....you haven't addressed or you've skipped around the subject.

You have no argument outside of what you believe to be "gospel" in your mind.

Finally if GGG is truly not a top P4P fighter then name your top 10.....give me something to laugh about in the morning.