Anthony Joshua vs Muhammad Ali who wins this super fight?

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Anthony Joshua vs Muhammad Ali who wins?

  1. Anthony Joshua

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  2. Muhammad Ali

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  1. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    he was facing a 37 year old retired fattie who never cut it once even 10 years earlier when prime. U for real offering that excuse for getting wiped out in seconds when wlad was prime?

    YOU should be offering some explanation as to why Wlad was defending against someone so decrepid in the first place, nevermind explaining why they got so easily instantly wiped out in seconds to them.
     
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  2. john roberts

    john roberts Member Full Member

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    You are a laugh you ask for proof I give you proof, again not listening 210lbs if you want dead on it’s still remains the people on this site can google the fights above and get the weights involved, people will look at your previous posts and know what you have been saying and see you have been shut down, on your main point
     
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  4. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You showed me ali v liston, and it was wrong. Anyway, you think anyone gives a shite ?? They dont
     
  5. john roberts

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    You are a laugh you ask for proof I give you proof, your bible Wikipedia says Ali is 107kg but I’m not interested in that,if 210lbs dead on is the figure you want then it makes no difference my last post still stands everybody reading your previous posts know your main point is the weight and height difference and you have been shut down on that point, all the people following this can google those fights and get the weights,I don’t need to inflate them they are there to see
     
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  7. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali at around the same age as Joshua tended to stay around the 220 mark. But, when he fought dangerous compact guys like Frazier and Quarry he would come in lighter so they wouldn't gas him out. Ali was optimal around 220lb, since when went over 225lbs he tended to get too flat footed like many modern heavyweights today.

    Ali also struggled more with smaller lighter guys, since the smaller guys could sneak in shots better, had better upper body and head movement, and good footwork.

    Ali 220lbs vs. Jimmy Ellis
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    Ali 227lbs vs. Buster Mathis
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    Ali 220lbs vs. Jurgen Blin
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    Ali 226lbs vs. Mac Foster
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  8. GALVATRON

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    Flying was not allowed anyway,and Superman was 225 pounds .However he had never been in a fight without superpowers before ,so the ali win doesnt actually count by default...even McGregor had more boxing experiance than Superman.
     
  9. Birmingham

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    Its a sign of weakness when you try involving others. Anyway Wiki is more accurate than ebay pal...Pmsl your proof is on ebay lol lol
     
  10. Birmingham

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    Superman was not 225. He was 6ft 2" and 200lb peak
     
  11. Birmingham

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    You calling Tyson Fury flat footed ?
     
  12. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    You getting killed with your argument. You really ignoring the facts that Ali only has problems with fighters smaller then him like Frazier but when it's a fighter taller then ali in ali's prime? Ali fights better. Joshua even at 6'6 don't have a chance in hell if he fought a prime 6'3 ali. Ali too quick, better foot work, better d and way better stamina then joshua. Joshua gets too tired if he goes 7 rounds or more. And you don't know boxing if you think a 41 decline vlad would've beat frazier, norton. Vlad easily lost to fury. The same fury who was knockdown by a smaller chisora and a cruiser weight Cunningham lol. It's embarrassing losing to fury who's chubby out of shape fighter.
     
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  13. Birmingham

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    You do know none of them weights was prime Ali ?? When fans like me and you talk Ali's prime its never in the 70's, people think he was past it after the lay off. So you cant make Ali's prime in the 60's but his weight count from the 70's ! Ali weighed much heavier than the 210lb at stages in his second career i'm not arguing that, its obvious. For Ali to face elite all time heavies h2h he has to be prime yeah ? Not the one Mathis fought or Blinn and the rest fought where your weight argument suits ! I know wiki says 107kg, that's not specific though for each fight is it ? He would be 16st 8lb...I'm taking the general opinion Ali was prime before lay off
     
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  14. Birmingham

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    Ali was dropped by 13st 1 lb Cooper and bell saved him FACTS
     
  15. Jackomano

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    I said like many modern heavyweights not all. That said Fury does get flat footed when he comes in too heavy. When he comes in around 245-250 he's very mobile and hard to hit, but at 255+ he's flat footed and very hittable.