Purses for Joshua: $20million, Pulev $5million

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nice to see heavyweight champions today making what heavyweight champions like Holyfield were making 25 years ago fighting guys like Holmes.

    Joshua is good for the sport. No doubt. He's a real star.

    I've never understood the supporters of Pulev, though. His most impressive win was many years ago against Ustinov, who totally exhausted himself. Other than that, Pulev has been pretty boring and doesn't seem to have any real power at all.

    I don't see Pulev bringing anything to the table in this matchup.
     
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  2. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, only 13 FEWER wins, 24 FEWER knockouts and six FEWER wins in title fights.

    But other than that, yeah, 'really on par.' (Christ)

    We get it. You don't like Wilder. But don't be a dolt.
     
  3. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Wilders resume isn't any better than Pulev in terms of quality of wins. His best wins are at the same level. His has an advantage in QUANTITY not QUALITY. Oh paper belt too.

    "We" You and the few other Wilder fanboys you mean? :lol:
     
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  4. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have stated repeatedly that I believe Joshua is the best heavyweight and Wilder is the second best heavyweight. They are the two most exciting heavyweights in the world right now.

    They are clearly the top two. Both of them put on very exciting matches. Both are KO punchers. I have nothing against either.

    If that makes me a fanboy of both, fine. They both should have a ton of fans. They are both getting rid of token mandatories next, then the way is clear for a unification. If Hearn wants to delay it to milk it for more, I think it's a mistake. We lost too many "great" heavyweight title matchups in the last 20 years because promoters wanted to "milk" it longer.

    It's stupid. You match the top guys when they're both at the top ..and you "milk" it by matching them two or three times before the sanctioning bodies get in the way again.

    That's what brings excitement to the sport.

    I don't understand the need for people to badmouth Wilder because the top guys he's signed to fight got caught cheating.

    But you have to be an idiot to believe Pulev is on par with Wilder.

    I don't know what the fastest knockout in heavyweight championship history is off the top of my head, but Joshua may score it against Pulev.

    Pulev brings nothing. He's old. He's slow. He stands straight up. He has no power.

    Wilder's record and accomplishments and talent in the ring is well beyond anything Pulev has brought.

    Wilder would be Joshua's biggest test. Pulev AIN'T THAT.

    Pulev is a token mandatory, like Stiverne is, like Glazkov was.
     
  5. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    TL/DR

    Pulev is better than anyone on Wilders terrible resume. Fact.
     
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  6. Dubblechin

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    I didn't realize Pulev was on Pulev's resume. Don't be a dolt.
     
  7. Rock0052

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    Once you get to a certain level of stardom, a loss doesn't necessarily drag your earnings power down. As long as Joshua makes tough fights and delivers the action, people will keep tuning in even if every fight doesn't go his way.
     
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  8. MrTombourineMan

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    Based on what? What does Wilder have that makes him #2 over Povetkin, Ortiz or Parker? His resume certainly doesn't put him there. His title? Parker has a trinket too and also a better resume to boot.
    UtF didn't say Pulev is on par with Wilder, even he would admit Wilder sparks Pulev. He just said Pulev's resume is better, which is correct. Who on Wilder's resume is better than prime Dimitrenko or Ustinov? A Stiverne who was on the verge of renal failure? Lol. Nope.
    That's hyperbole, and you know it is.
    Correct, but those achievements revolve around winning a recently vacated title against a guy with rhabdomyolysis and then defending it against a bunch of chumps. Pulev would have beaten Stiverne that night and would have also beaten every one of the subsequent voluntaries. Wilder was ranked with the right organisation at the right time.
    Pulev is levels above Glazkov and actually fought people to earn his mandatory status, unlike Stiverne.
     
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  9. STEPHEN1990

    STEPHEN1990 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If arreola can outbox stiverne so can Pulev
     
  10. liger1992

    liger1992 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This. The idea that AJ loses and suddenly he loses all his fans is ridiculous.

    People watch AJ because his fights usually produce action. As long as that remains the case people will pay to watch him
     
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  11. N17

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    And this is what I keep telling Wilder fanboys and will continue you tell them.. Wilder is not on the same planet as Joshua.

    Wilder can claim Joshua "Needs" to fight him and Wilder can claim it needs to be in the US if Joshua wants to go "Global".

    Joshua is fighting in Wales, this is not London, this is not a "home" fight for Joshua and look at the money involved.

    The fact is Joshua probably earns more for each fight now than Wilder has earned in his entire career and let's not forget because these fanboys keep reminding me Wilder has been the WBC Champion for what? Nearly 3 years? and how many? 5 defences?

    Yet Wilder is still earning less each fight now than Joshua's next mandatory opponent.

    I'm told boxing is all about levels, levels in skill, talent, profile, numbers and money, on each account Wilder is woefully short of Joshua, Wilder can keep begging for a payday because I personally find it amusing.

    This just reminds me of Khan continually humiliating himself calling out Mayweather, begging and pleading for that huge money, Wilder is just a lanky version of Khan, both have glass jaws and have no shame, Wilder should just stay in his lane.

    And if you were unaware Wilder's lane is.. Stiverne II
     
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  12. N17

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    Exactly, British fans are ridiculously loyal, in fact sometimes too loyal.

    May I remind these people of Frank Bruno.. He was loved by the British fans and still is, was followed everywhere and he lost 5 times.

    Lennox Lewis was knocked out twice, still loved and followed.

    I named those two because they were heavyweights but there are plenty of examples of British fighters losing and still being loved, adored, followed and paid large.
     
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  13. Boxingfan200

    Boxingfan200 USYK #1 P4P banned Full Member

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    how the hell is this fight even making 25million 0.0 the promoters gonna even turn a profit lol?
     
  14. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    I think he mean't the quality of their opposition which you sorta have confirmed with you ko ratio given Wilder has fought far more cans than Pulev..

    Really you sound like a butthurt fanboi even though you claim you are not.

    Wilder's resume is poo and there is nothing you can say to defend it..

    OK back on topic.. LOL this just shows Wilder that he needs to understand he is just another player wanting a slice of the money train.. Parker realises this so has moved to the UK and will be fighting whoever Hearn wants just to get probs $10+ million..

    Wilder is too dumb to realise this so he will fight AJ via Twitter for the next few years getting his 1 million in Bum**** USA smashing cans while everyone else gets rich...
     
  15. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Yep AJ needs 20+million paydays which he will only get in the USA v Wilder.. Oh wait...
     
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