who really think eubank can win the 168 super series

If Groves does beat Eubank say by KO, I think it'll be either by a counter hook or bodyshot. CEJ throws his hooks very wide, I can see Groves covering up getting pounded (like same as tonight), then just unload a big short counter hook, he looks under pressure, but he is relatively calm a lot of the time and will just look to counter and I think he'll hit the target.

CEJ has to try box on the outside I think, throwing a lot of jabs, I don't think he's going to try go into a tear up straight away, probably second half of the fight to conserve energy then and try and push Groves, that would be the sensible thing to do.

People keep saying Groves can't fight at a high pace, where is the evidence, he's gone 12 rounds several times against world class competition and thrown a lot of shots.

 

Eubank will beat him. Groves looks done at the weight imo.

 

If CEJ goes all guns blazing early on, I think he knows he will eat a lot of counter shots, so I do expect him to try box a bit the early rounds, try not to walk onto big shots then push the pace the second half of the fight.

 

Groves looked like he was blowing after 3 as well as Cox. I'm a GG fan but thought he looked in trouble at a couple of points tonight with Cox's power. Great KO finish, but I think Eubank beats him

 

I don't think he was blowing after 3 at all, Cox got hit by some hard body shots on the inside in 1st and 2nd rounds (particularly the second) and was clearly hurt by one when he held on. Everyone was raving about how well he was doing (which he was to be fair for about 2 rounds, although quite a few of his shots got blocked when he threw loads - just look at the punch stats), so hardly anyone was noticing the inside work Groves was doing.

 

Groves has got far too much for CEJ and CEJ knows it. Dont be surprised when CEJ pulls out of the fight as he and his Dad know he has no chance whatsoever of beating Groves.

 

Well done to GG, a job well done. No GG wasn't blowing after 3 rounds, breathing a bit heavy after a flurry is normal. Got clipped a couple of times but caught cox with a great counter body shot. His normal great jab wasnt there tonight, not sure, maybe it was Cox's head movement.

Eubank will box at range, using his speed in and out. He will wear GG out and takes over the second half and force a stoppage. Jr has too much speed and fitness for GG. That is my prediction.

 

Just watched the Yildirim fight back, threw a lot of jabs but he can't seem to extend his arm fully - I'm guessing that's to do with his elbow problem? Also there is hardly any power in them at all.

If he win's I'll give him a lot of credit, his KO of Yildirim was impressive but he was so wild with his hooks, two points he throws himself seriously off balance and I don't think he's changed much in his style at all.

I just think people have gone way overboard on him - he's not faced one world class super-middleweight yet, the bookmakers making him favourite is driven primarily by public money - the same way how McGregor was like 3-4/1 to beat Mayweather, when in reality he should of been at least 10/1+

I hope the semi-final lives up to the hype but i'll be taking a bet on Groves at 6/5 - hopefully bigger on fight night, even if he doesn't look as good as in the past.

 

How did Saunders beat him if he is so good and unbeatable? Why did he run from Golovkin, refuse to sign the contract?

 

Anyone who doesn't think Groves v CEJ is a 50/50 fight is kidding themselves

It literally is 50/50

Groves weight advantage is offset by CEJ's workrate and accuracy

Both have the tools to win and the weaknesses to lose

 

That is the worst I have ever seen Groves look. Even worse than he looked against Jack, in a narrow UD loss I thought he had just edged and won.

He looks old, and a lot slower than he was back in the first Froch fight. Doesnt look explosive.

Cox who is a British level operator, was able to get inside and Groves looked very uncomfortable there.

If Eubank Jr comes out and puts his foot to the metal early, getting on the inside, then he could blow Groves away in 4-5 rounds.

If Eubank Jr takes a more measured approach then it will go later, but will still be a knock out win, as an account of Groves stamina.

I think Groves needs to move up in weight, because he looks dead at the weight, and a fight against CEJ is a bad opponent at a bad time for him.

I am not sure it happens in January, it would make more sense to happen in March or April. But CEJ has to be the favourite now.

 

Agree

Groves looks like fighter who has aged badly, is dead at the weight, and declined significantly.

CEJ is a fighter who has improved and has just the inside game to exploit Groves lack of inside game. Groves has never been any good on the inside.

CEJ wins comfortably if he performs like he did against Cox. Unless Groves can find his jab and stop CEJ from working him over on the inside. That means a jab and grab style is his only hope. But Groves has never shown the discipline to fight that game plan previously and a lower level operator like Cox was able to get into him

 

No one said he was unbeatable. That was then, even that was a close decision loss. I bet on bjs to win at the time. Jr has gone on to improve vastly since then. GGG is a machine, even canelo run from him for a few years.

This is going to be relatively easy money on Jr @ 4/5 odds.

 

Agree with this. Last night when cox was backing groves up he remained very calm and was blocking, slipping the majority of punches.

 

Agree with posters above groves looks dead at the weight. Everything he does nowadays looks laboured. Even the feint looks a going through the motions. Hes forcing the punches out.

The complete opposite of the first froch fight. I ve always thought although froch improved massively from the first fight...groves regressed for the second fight. Wierd how his best performance was the one he basically trained himself.

Eubank too fresh for him. Boxings about timing as much as about ability etc. He,ll beat groves. Probably get the stoppage imo.