Is Larry Holmes a consensus top ten heavyweight?

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Simple enough question.
     
  2. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Also, how do you guys score Larry's close fights, wins and losses?

    I'm especially curious about his last two career losses, against McCall and... ***ugh*** Brian Nielson. Could even a nearly 50 year old Holmes really lose to Brian Nielson?
     
  3. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes!
     
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  4. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    I personally agree.
     
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    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Of course. Oh, and a much younger Tyson was losing to Nelson until he landed that right.
     
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    You mean botha? Easy to confuse those 2 fat guys lol, tyson beat up nielsen pretty good
     
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    Most definitely for me,top 7!
     
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    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Oh, ****. You got me...:roto2lol:
     
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    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Easy simple answer? Yes. Reasons: Size, he took monster shots and came back 'ticking', like the bunny.
    ATG JAB!!! ANY heavy EVER is going to have a hard time getting thru him, let alone seriously hurting him. Forget his late career; I don't even factor that in.
    In closing, you know what always impressed me about Larry (seems like so few fighters did this)?
    When hurt, he never went into a shell; came back throwing punches. That's the sign of a warrior, a smart warrior!
    My $0.02
     
  10. Contro

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    I think holmes is underrated. His entire era is underrated because the focus was on other weightclasses and the personalities werent there at the time. The social issues going on in america at the time in addition to Alis personalities really shone a light on the HW division which Holmes era didnt just not benefit from but Holmes era actually looked boring and devoid of talent to the casual fan because it couldnt live up to the hype of the ali era(and really nothing could).

    But the 80s HWs look very skilled and talented on film. Just didnt have the excitement. Its really alis vulnerability in his post exile career that made the era so competitve. If ali was 5 years younger and first became champ in 69 without ever having a lay off you'd be talking about the 70s HWs the way the "holmes and tyson rejects" are talked about.

    Funny how people think the division sucks until the champ starts slipping
     
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    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    2 minor gripes. 1, He never unified the titles and 2, He shoulda rematched a few times. That aside, hes a solid top 10 knocking on the door of 5 for me
     
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    Tyson was on the slide once he sacked Rooney.
     
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    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Only Tucker could have competed against Foreman, Frazier and Norton out Tyson`s prime era wins.
     
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    Oh indeed, no question that was the ghost of Tyson.
     
  15. DJN16

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    Without a doubt, Larry Holmes at his best arguably beats any heavyweight ever.
     
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