Hearn wants Wilder/Whyte for Feb 3rd at O2!

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  1. gold

    gold Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What a sad time for the heavyweight division
     
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  2. inner2deepz

    inner2deepz Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Why should a promoter dictate to another champion?!? Hearn said Joshua wants to unify the other champion is calling him out.
     
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  3. lucky luke

    lucky luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Joshua has already beaten Whyte, and his profile in the UK (and the rest of the world) is already kind of high.

    Why would he need to fight Whyte again?
     
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  4. MrTombourineMan

    MrTombourineMan Торрейра хорошо. Full Member

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    Because, like I previously said, that's not how IBF mandatories work. When they schedule a mandatory and the #1 challenger is unavailable they very rarely grant a voluntary, instead they just go to the next guy in the rankings. That's why Kell Brook had some **** poor defences.

    The IBF had already said waaaaaay back in April that if a Klitschko rematch could not happen then the immediate fight would be an IBF mandatory, with no exceptions. So when Pulev pulled out it was always going to be Takam. If Takam was unavailable it would have been Hammer, then Miller, then Whyte etc etc.

    You're twisted my own words as if there was an alternative option when there simply wasn't. Anybody who knows how strict the IBF are with mandatory challengers would know that the Takam fight was a dead certainty after Pulev's injury. So don't pretend Whyte was ever in line for the shot as a late replacement because in reality he would have needed Takam, Hammer and Miller to all turn down the chance at the unified title for a career high payday, which would never happen.

    How do you not know this?
     
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  5. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    There is only ONE champion. And that's AJ. Wilder is a belt holder, not a recognized champion.
     
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  6. inner2deepz

    inner2deepz Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    You can ask for an exception! Doesn’t matter if it’s not likely to happen you can still ask!! Please stfu Wilder doesn’t need to fight whyte to get Joshua. I remember Floyd trying to make Manny fight other people first and everyone up in arms. Hearn trying to make Wilder fight Whyte his fighter tells me all I need to know about AJ wanting Wilder
     
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  7. MrTombourineMan

    MrTombourineMan Торрейра хорошо. Full Member

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    I'm not even saying that Wilder needs to fight Whyte, you fool.

    There are better fights out there for Wilder, Ortiz could still pass the WBC medical exam (based on the fact that they bought the blood pressue **** and bull) so could still fight Wilder in early 2018, there's also the possibility of a Parker unification. These would both be far better tests than Whyte.

    I'm just saying that Whyte was never a realistic option for the late stand in, which you implied he was (incorrectly). Yes, you are technically correct in that Hearn
    could have applied for an exemption, but we all know (even you) that the IBF would have rejected that because they have a hard on for scheduled mandatory fights.

    So why would Hearn spend $20,000 (the ridiculous cost of an exemption application) asking for an exemption that he knows will get turned down? It's basically flushing money down the toilet. Whyte was never a viable replacement for Pulev, because Takam, Hammer and Miller are all ahead of him in the rankings. You implied that he was a viable replacement in an attempt to criticise him, so I corrected you on the matter.

    Why are you still arguing?

     
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  8. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    OMG dum ass because he wasn't the next best ranked IBF mandatory, Takam was.

    Unlike the WBC the IBF don't play favorites but just follow their own rules..

    WTF with these Wilder fanboys just having no clue how boxing works???

    P.S. I am assuming AN = AJ if not sorry I have the wrong fighter...
     
  9. Hayemaker83

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    so if Takam was installed as New mandatory, that means Pulev lost his mando status and has to fight his way up again?
     
  10. MrTombourineMan

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    I'm not entirely sure he's a Wilder fanboy, from his comment I gather he's just somebody who doesn't rate Whyte that highly (neither do I to be honest).

    But to suggest that Whyte should have stepped in for Pulev, and criticise him for not doing so when Takam, Hammer and Miller were all ahead him in the IBF rankings is straight up ignorant.
     
  11. Ty577

    Ty577 Member banned Full Member

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    These Americans getting all boiled up,truth hurts dosen't it,Wilder has to follow the Map set out by Hearn and AJ,if he wants the lottery ticket.You know what if i was AJ and Hearn,i'd make Wilder fight Whyte,without any contractual rights,which enables him to fight Joshua,and whatever the result of Wilder/Whyte,dont give him the fight.Fight Haye,Parker,H Fury,Pulev,Chisora,give it to those who deserve the payday more than Wilder.
     
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  12. Hayemaker83

    Hayemaker83 Member Full Member

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    basically AJ would pull a Floyd Mayweather on Wilder, forcing Wilder to fight certain guys before getting a shot at him.
     
  13. OpinionOfACasual

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    Quick question bro....

    Wilder vs Stiverne.....

    Why not ask for an exception?
     
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  14. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    There are guys that deserve a shot at AJ ahead of Wilder.

    Parker for one. He had the balls to come over here to the UK and raise his profile.
     
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  15. Hayemaker83

    Hayemaker83 Member Full Member

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    true. like if Wilder was in Parker's shoes and had to fight Fury in the UK, would he have done it?

    my gut instinct tells me no.