ESPN 30 for 30 Tommy Morrison

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  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    What? He would be lucky to see round two against Tyson or Bowe.
     
  2. lufcrazy

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    I'm not arsed how Morrisons looks, I don't particularly rate him myself.

    It matters because you tried using false evidence that he wasn't ranked when actually the source you provided suggests exactly the opposite.

    I'm surprised you don't know this, it's reasonably common knowledge.

    Of course it's subjective which is why we always have to take them with a pinch of salt.

    I'm not debating that these are a good starting point, I'm just saying you can't claim someone wasn't ranked if this is your sole source. Because all this shows is that either they weren't ranked in December of that year, or they weren't ranked amongst the best ten fighters of that year, or there's been a typo.
     
  3. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    That's not what I'm saying doesn't matter. What I'm saying doesn't matter is whether or not Foreman was ranked. That would give Morrison only a single win over a top 10 fighter and a crappy one at that.

    If it's common knowledge then you should have no problem saying it.

    If rankings essentially don't matter according to you then pretty much any argument about any fighter not fighting the best of their era is pretty much thrown out the window.
     
  4. lufcrazy

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    I don't care of its crappy or not, I don't really care too much about Morrison. I just wanted to point out a flaw in relying on annual rankings.

    I had no problem saying it.

    That's not what I said. I actually said they're a good starting point, did you even read the post before replying?
     
  5. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    "Of course it's subjective which is why we always have to take them with a pinch of salt."

    Which is it?
     
  6. lufcrazy

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    How do you interpret me saying "a pinch of salt" as meaning "rankings essentially don't matter"
     
  7. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Because that's what the saying means.
     
  8. Farmboxer

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    Morrison partied as much as Jim Morrison, it's a shame because he had lots of talent and power...........
     
  9. lufcrazy

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    "(With) a grain of salt", (or "a pinch of salt") is an idiom of the English language, which means to viewsomething with skepticism or not to interpret something literally.
     
  10. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yes I know this. What is your point?
     
  11. lufcrazy

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    My point is me saying take the rankings with a pinch of salt does not mean they're completely irrelevant.

    For example in 94 Foreman's ranking was number 1 in the world, but he was clearly not the best heavyweight in the world.
     
  12. lepinthehood

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    Damn!!!!
     
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  13. On The Money

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    Eh, Ruddock went life and death twice with Tyson.
     
  14. Mr.DagoWop

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    Oh well then yeah I agree 100% but that's strictly on a case by case basis. For the most part rankings by ring mag were pretty reliable.
     
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    stop