GGG Canelo 2 does not interest me

Those that question Canelo didn't think he was busy enough, especially when Golovkin was attacking.
So yes, if Canelo wants to win clearly, he has adjust his mindset and not let there be to many instances where he's content in just avoiding incoming, but have his mindset of making Golovkin pay for his misses. Which imo he did enough of, but there are those who didn't think he did enough.

So activity (even if its just looking busy) is what Canelo needs to do.

What Golovkin needs to do is a whole lot more.

He needs to sit more on his shots as there wasn't many instances where he was putting leverage on his shots. Canelo kept him off balance with his head and waist movements.
Golovkins has to stop that head and waist movement from Canelo by going hard to the body.
The problem for Golovkin in doing that is that he's going to have to be able to absorb the Canelo's uppercuts in which quite frankly Canelo is very good at landing.

Golovkin isn't going to be able to consistently land clean hard shots if he doesn't go to the body.
Guess whats coming if Golovkin commits to the body????
The uppercut which was quite evident Golovkin didn't want to taste any of.
There lies the dilemma for Gennady Golovkin.

Imo, Canelo landing that uppercut opens up the avenue for him to land another shot after that head pops up like a yoyo.
Golovkin goes consistently to the body, he's going to get stopped, which is a good reason not to commit to the body and the reason why he neglected Canelo's body in the first fight.

So while Canelo may need to create the illusion that he's more active, that's nothing to the x's and o's adjustments that Golovkin has to make.

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Please don't demean my post with your deluded nuthugger nonsense.

 

divac, I agree with everything you said except for the "looking busier" part. Canelo has to be careful not to sacrifice quality for quantity because that's possibly his biggest advantage. Also being busier just to be busy will affect his stamina which is one area that he needs to improve on. I don't want to see Canelo throw more punches but not land as many hard effective clean punches as he did in the first fight. If Canelo starts reaching and missing, that's going to give G an advantage, so I don't think he should do that. I agree he needs to land more punches, but he still needs to let those punches go naturally when the openings appear rather than force the issue, especially early as that could decrease his effeciency which is one of the reasons why judges were giving him rounds. Canelo's never really fought like that before, he's never really been a volume puncher, and trying to chase G is how people get knocked out by Gennady Golovkin. I do think there's openings for Canelo to throw more punches than he did, but he can't force the issue.

In my opinion, he has to guard against listening to the critics saying he doesn't fight for all 3 minutes of every round and things like that, because if he goes in there trying to force the issue and just throwing his hands to be more active, that could play right into Triple G's hands. Canelo is a natural counter puncher, and I think in the rematch he should come out cautiously like he always does and basically see what G does differently, and take advantage of that, rather than try to be someone he's not by trying to be more active.

However when it gets to the middle rounds, Canelo probably shouldn't go the ropes like he did, or if he does just stay there for one or two punches then circle back to the middle ring. He can't let what happened with a minute left in the 5th round happen again, because that swung the fight. Through 4 and a half rounds, he was in complete control of the fight (even when he went to the ropes in the 4th that was fine in my opinion becuase G didn't land anything significant). Though I think he proved that he can fight off the ropes vs G, it's still a risky thing to do vs G and I think G will be more aggressive in the rematch IF Canelo goes to the ropes. I also think Canelo should give G more angles, like as G tries to walk him down, instead of retreating, he should lean to one side, then lean to the other, etc. He did that a little bit in the first fight but not as much as he could have. I think we'll see a better version of Canelo physically in the rematch which should allow him to do all these things effortlessly. Though I thought he did well in the first fight, I thought he was a little timid at times here and there but I think he'll be more comfortable and fluid in the rematch. Will be very interesting to see how often he goes to the ropes in the rematch, and if he chooses to try to actually slip G's jab and get inside and land some body shots that way. (in the first fight he landed body shots mostly from the side, not from actually bending low with G's body in front of him as I thought he might do)

 

I agree on a couple of things in your reply. GGG definitely needs to implement some body punches in his fight strategy. He neglected it altogether in the first fight with Alvarez and he's actually a very good body puncher. I think he would have possibly gotten a stoppage had he incorporated a body attack strategy given how gased Alvarez was especially late in the fight.

The other area I agree he'll need to focus on is sitting down on his punches more....unfortunately that wasn't really an option in the first fight given the game plan Alvarez opted to go with that saw a LOT of back peddling. I think the rematch will provide GGG with plenty of spots to focus on Alvarez's body and putting some grease on his shots based on Canelo having something to prove.

With the overwhelming number of fans having GGG winning that fight, I'm sure Alvarez will be looking to make a statement and prove can beat GGG straight up, without any promotional influence or hometown favoritism.

Based on the ebb and flow of the first fight it would seem Alvarez needs to be the one who makes the adjustments since he was unable to sustain any successful offensive output to control the rounds. However, understanding the quality of boxer Canelo is, he certainly has it within him to make adjustments especially with a full camp and time to reflect on areas he could have done better. GGG will obviously have to be aware and prepared for those adjustments and can't rely on the success he had in the first fight to carry over into the rematch. That would be a major mistake for Golovkin to make knowing Alvarez is a true competitor operating at an elite level within the sport.

Rematches aren't typically better than the original but I have a feeling this will be an exception to the norm.

 

Id rather watch wwe then a boxing match where one guy is carrying the other.

 

One of the things Canelo did in many of the closer rounds was win the first minute or so of a round clearly, and then rest on his laurels the rest of the round just playing defense.

So when I say Canelo has to create the illusion he's doing more, what he needs to do is spread his activity and gear a good chunk of it for the last minute of a round.
One of the things that judges and fans alike do is they tend to remember what happens toward the end of a round and forget the early portions of it.
Save some punches to close a round strong is something Canelo can implement for those that have early round amnesia. I'm telling you, the official judges themselves are guilty of such amnesia.
As well, Canelo can work on taking something off of his punches when he's in defensive mode.
Don't just employ the defensive maneuvers, when he makes Golovkins miss, shoot your shots even if they're not with the usual leverage he likes to land with.
The arm punching isn't as effective, but it at least creates the perception that you're being busy.
Its those same type of arm punches that have people believing Golovkin was deserving of the decision.

I'm not saying Canelo should concentrate on volume. I think he should do exactly what he did the first time but do more of it late in a round and add a little more activity thru those middle rounds where he made Golovkin miss but didn't make him pay.
Make those payments with arm punching pitter patter as Golovkin did for chunks of the fight.

 

A rematch will only be worth watching if Canelo does something different this time.

I just dont see what he can do different and GGG will win another 116-112 like decision, unless Canelo stands more in the pocket, and no one has ever been able to do that and not be left in need of an oxygen mask

 

I think Canelo although i had him losing the first fight will win the rematch.

 

no fight interests me for more than about twenty bucks. any ppv more than that i will skip.

 

I don't think GGG knew he was being rope a doped as opposed to giving Alvarez respect for his counter punching abilities and power. GGG was measured and thoughtful in how he controlled the action throughout the fight. He would successfully move Alvarez to the ropes utilizing the jab and cutting off the escape routes but a cornered dog is when he's most dangerous.

The only ineffective punches in the fight between both men were the punches that completely missed. The punches that landed, obviously were effective but even the punches that were caught on the gloves or blocked completely played a crucial role for Golovkin. For one it kept Alvarez defensive, secondarily ...the constant pressure allowed GGG to control the pace and lastly it opened up opportunities for clean shots to land.

Alvarez didn't quite have the consistency with his offense to make the punches that GGG was catching or blocking work for him. He relied too much on fighting conservatively and only in spots. That provided a bulk of every round for Golovkin to implement his fight strategy which forced Alvarez to fight his fight and not the other way around.

I agree Alvarez landed the more noteworthy punches....it just wasn't enough to over shadow the overall body of work GGG sustained throughout the fight.

 

Nah... GGG was very ineffective against Canelo and I still think Canelo got the best of him and a lot of people feel the same way. GGG needs this rematch to erase all doubts.

 

90% of the world don't exist on boxing forums bro.. in the real world it's actually 50-50 when you ask who really won the fight, so a rematch is definitely in order here.

 

Canelo troubled him in the first fight dude.. WTF... when you're held to your lowest connect % ever, I'm sorry to say but it looks like you've ran into trouble.. lol

 

Sheesh....You say "a lot of people" felt Alvarez got the best of GGG? Have you seen the numbers of pro boxers, boxing writers, analysts and fans who weighed in on this fight? What's the polar opposite of "a lot"?

If GGG was truly ineffective offensively the bigger question would have to be what prompted Alvarez to chose the fight strategy he went with that night? It definitely wasn't vintage Canelo we are used to seeing where he is able to control the fight and capitalize on his opponents ineffective offense. I would have expected to see a fight that had elements of Canelo's wins over Kirkland, Kahn and Liam if GGG wasn't effective?

 

Polls aren't meant to acquire responses from the entire world....it's a scientific approach to gain an accurate depiction of the overall consensus through sampling. It's impossible to get the millions of fans who viewed the fight to weigh in....nor is it necessary when polling provides an accurate representation.