Does anyone at 160 today stand a chance against a prime Roy Jones jr?

I've got to give you credit Chief.

Seriously, credit where it's due.

I actually laughed out loud when I first read this.

You remind me of Bailey.


Massacred?

You're British aren't you?

Someone told me you were.

If so, why are you taking LSD late on a Sunday night?

What's all that about?


No, I don't get riled if someone thinks that GG could have beaten Roy. Again, I'm a big fan myself. What riles me is ignorant people. Put forward an intelligent theory on how it could have happened, and even if I don't agree with it, I'll support it.

What I can't abide, is fantasy talk and triangle theories.

 

And the competitive fight he had with a Jacobs (Tested only once) at 35 means WHAT exactly?? Weren’t you just hacking on somebody for bringing up Tarver? Basically implying that means **** all because that was Tarver?! Lol But you feel you should go ahead and throw Jacobs in this argument. STFU

 

You're obsessed with PEDS.

Didn't Hall test for 10 x that amount?

They must have been a bad batch.

 

Except he ducked neither of those guys.

 

I don't give reverse credit for what a fighter does at a higher weight. Period.

Pac destroying Cotto didn't make him a better Flyweight. Him demolishing Hatton didn't make him a better light weight.

Upper weight accomplishments don't scale down for me, no matter the talent.

Roy's 160 viability begins and ends at 160. I rate him at 168 and 175 because he did enough to be ranked there.

At 160, you've got him facing 2 ranked contenders who, going in to that fight, never beat another ranked contender. It's as foolish as giving GGG ATG status after Proksa.

 

Tarver was a rangy southpaw at LHW.

Jacobs didn't pose the stylistic threat that Tarver did, and he's just fought a supposedly prime GG at his optimal weight. Jacobs is also nowhere near the level of a peak version of Roy.

GG scraped by him. Yet there's ignorant people out there who think it's a given that he'd have wrecked Roy.

Why?

 

Hall must have lacked sufficient technical abilities.

 

You’re not laughing Just like you said you “laughed out loud” in that other thread were I lead your dumbass to a ban because you went nuts and said naughty words

You’re an angry little turd Lol I’ll get you to blow a gasket again.

“Even if I don’t agree with it, I’ll support it” Lol

Kind of like “I don’t respect your opinion” then in the next Loudon long winded 6 separate sentence essay “I asked you to explain how Joe beats Ward”

You’re a top 5 forum jerkoff.

 

Take off those rose colored glasses . Jones was PROVEN to be a PED's abuser & it was swept under the carpet. Same way with Floyd & the IV scandal. Both ducked their dangerous opponents along the way too. Neither should ever be inducted in the HOF in my book

 

You can do what you want.

Again, Roy possessed the exact same attributes at MW than what he did at SMW.

Again, he fought at both weights in the same year.

If you had a time machine and you put Roy into a fantasy MW fight, you'd essentially be choosing the guy who fought Toney, minus about 3-4 pounds.

You don't need a huge list of MW stats to judge Roy's ability at MW.

It's not necessary.

We're not ranking Roy at MW based on accomplishments.

We're looking at how he might have fared on a H2H basis.

We have sufficient evidence to see what GG would've been up against.

 

And at MW, Roy Jones was 180. He claimed this himself.

GG is 170, and Hagler is 160. Which is exactly what I said...10-20 pounds.

 

Look Chief, intellectually, we're obviously levels apart.

You debate in a child like manner.

No, you don't make me angry.

Nobody is blowing a gasket.

All you are is a source of entertainment.

You possess very little boxing knowledge and you debate on emotion. Your opinions are based purely on what you would have wanted to have seen happen.

You can't grasp what's logical and what isn't.

You are a fantasist.

When you feel threatened, the insults and emojis start to flow.

You're a nobody here.

Go and watch some boxing and come back next year.

 

Roy tested once.

You have insufficient evidence to take it any further.

You can put forward a theory, but you have no proof.

No, he didn't duck dangerous opponents.

Bernard demanded refused $6m and a comeback fight on HBO, and demanded $10m or no fight. He then spent a year out before fighting Morrade Hakkar for $1.3m.

 

He claimed he was high for the Hopkins fight. But he fought at MW for 4 years before he moved up.

He didn't rehydrate by 20 pounds for each of those fights, for 4 whole years.


Only a fool would mention Dempsey and Spinks to try and emphasise a point.

 

If he didn't make middleweight, the win doesn't count for middleweight. I'm not going to take a few pounds off to fluff up the record. He beat the Ring's 6 and 8 rated middleweights at 160, and that's it.

Pac only weighed in for 138 for the Hatton demolition. Guess what? That win didn't mean jack as it relates to ranking Pac at lightweight, even if I only had to forget about the last 3 pounds to get there.