Is Wilder embarrassed? Or Jealous even??

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  1. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Just the facts broken down....

    Wilder
    - Pro for 9 years
    - 33 Professional fights
    - Current WBC World heavyweight champion
    - Resides from the self proclaimed boxing Mecca....the USA


    Joshua
    - Pro for 4 years
    - 19 Professional fights
    - Current IBF, IBO (I know, but still) and WBA World heavyweight champion.
    - From 'Little Old England'.


    That's without mentioning the different results as Olympians.
    Or even the fact that Wilder earns more in a fight with AJ than he probably has done all his fights put together.


    So when you look at a potential fight.

    Olympic results? AJ
    Resume? AJ
    Most Belts? AJ
    Bigger draw globally? AJ
    Bigger draw nationally? AJ
    Bigger draw financially? AJ
    Location which would result in the best financial deal for both? UK
    Promoter which could attract the best financial deal for both? Must be UK promoter...therefore Hearn.


    Could you please tell me where Wilder justifies a '50/50' split?
     
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  2. oiky

    oiky Gypsy Boy Full Member

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    Don't see how he can't be embarrassed in some sort of way tbh
     
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  3. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    No chance in hell does Wilder deserve 50/50, but tbf its poor form comparing Wilder to AJ economically.

    AJ is the face of boxing, if he becomes Undisputed he will be a bigger draw than Canelo
     
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  4. James Smith

    James Smith Well-Known Member Full Member

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    From the sound of his interviews, he blames it on his fellow American citizens.

    You here Wilder say things like. "Brits really get behind their fighters" "American only get behind you when you are already the best" Yes even Wilder realised he is not the best.
     
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  5. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Wilder has had so much time to become undisputed.

    In theory, AJ could become undisputed in 2018.

    Wilder hasn't come close in 9 years to getting a second, let alone be undisputed.
     
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  6. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    It takes 2 to tango, look @ GGG he was older than Wilder is now when he was handed his 1st World Title and he's a superhero around here.
     
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  7. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Since Wilder's debut, Wladimir has had 15 fights.

    Since Joshua's debut, Wladimir has had 4 fights + AJ.


    Wlad was available for Wilder...why not take him?
     
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  8. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Since AJ beat Martin he has had how many fights, why hasn't he fought Wilder?

    Wilder is begging for it now but AJ wants it to marinate. Not saying AJ is scared but it takes 2 to tango, AJ wants to build the hype up 1st and make it a mega fight.

    Did Wlad ever look to get that Wilder fight?
     
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  9. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    Wilder is an embarrassment.
     
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  10. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's getting too hard to be a hypejob.
     
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  11. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Wilder said he wants "50-50".

    So he has 2 options.

    Earn the right by raising his profile
    or
    Accept what he deserves (probably 30% max)
     
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  12. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    He should be extremely happy to get 30%, 25% is probably what he's worth.

    Titles don't mean anything in these negotiations, AJ brings the money and can make it without Wilder. 50/50 is delusional, did he actually ask for that?
     
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  13. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    To be fair to Wilder he lives in his own splif induced world so has a different view on reality from many of us.
     
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  14. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Team wilder knew he would lose just in their sparring sessions( Ali Bashir a second Wlad trainer said Wilder was dropped a few times...he doesnt lie) .

    Around the years 2012 to 2015 Wlad was still dangerous and not over the hill as they hoped combined with wilders sub par performances.Really up until stiverne they knew Wilder was not ready and when he was knocked down by Sconiers and arguably by Nichols in his 11/12th fight that pretty much set the tone of his career to not let him near Wlad.

    That being said i have no problem with wilder not fighting Wlad but when he starts to mock other fighters ?Well....he deserves critizism ,he literally has the worst championship reign in HW history for me at the moment bc the way he went about things,that it would literally take a Joshua win to erase all of it.. :babeando:
     
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  15. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Embarrassed about what ? Undefeated WBC HW ****ing champ.
    You guys laugh at him making 1 to 1.5M per fight, like that's chump change.
    ****ing clowns own here
     
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