Who have they fought and beat doe?? Nobody really formidable yet. Until they do they are still BUMARVINS. From what I’ve seen Derevyanchenko and GGG will separate them from their senses.
I believe they can challenge the best of the best at 154lbs easy. At 160lbs they could be troubled we will have to see, certainly up there at 154lbs.
Todd let’s be brutally honest here would you consider yourself the voice of pure unadulterated objectivity? I tend to lean more towards not when it comes to these sort of evaluations. No offense, just constructive criticism, I’m certainly flawed myself.
Good fighters but haven't beaten anyone of note yet they are being billed like some supermen off a certain group of people who revel in claiming Golovkin has fought nobody.
Who has GGG beat? Jacobs? Who he arguably lost to?? I could argue Jermall's win over Trout is better than anyone GGG ever beat.
How? Trout has lost everytime he stepped up outside of Cotto. Trout wouldn't be a top tier 160 fighter, he he would he'd of stepped up already.
Similar scenario to GGG at a particular point in his career not sure why we can’t all admit that. The acknowledgement level far surpasses the tangible credits and GGG was given the same recognition more based on potential success rather than earned success. I don’t see why or how one group can even attempt to separate themselves from the overzealous labeling of both GGG & Charlos.
Whilst I see your point Pimp, I think the need for consistency is clear. The majority of people here think he beat Jacobs and Canelo, so that'll be their answer to that part. The Charlo's don't have any 'top' wins yet either, though the Trout one is a good one (but one that was actually pretty close and could probably be argued too). That being said, they're clearly both good. Just HOW good we don't really know yet. They have much more time on their side than GGG had when he got the right comp alongside him too. They're also heel as **** but in an appealing way as opposed to a clown like Broner.
Trout is too small for 160 what does that mean? Trout is a better P4P fighter than Jacobs or Lemieux. His win over Cotto is better than anything GGG has to.