Does anyone at 160 today stand a chance against a prime Roy Jones jr?

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  1. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    People are seeing just how irrational you are, to say Jones did not benefit from steroids is ridiculous.
     
  2. Loudon

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    1. I never said that.

    2. You have already admitted on the other thread that they were fictitious quotes.

    Give it up.

    It's embarrassing.
     
  3. mirkofilipovic

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    You said Jones did not get his athleticism from steroids, he DID.

    Those quotes were there to ridicule you. Because ultimately that is what you are telling me.
     
  4. Loudon

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    PEDS enhance.

    They don't GIVE fighters the attributes they've always had.

    Roy ALWAYS had athleticism.

    PEDS did not give Roy his hand speed.

    Again, there's early footage of Roy around.

    Again, he still looked as sharp AFTER he'd fought Hall and passed other random tests.

    Just get back to me when all of this sinks in.

    I'm going to bed.

    I just need to find the **** and my old K.O. magazine from 95.
     
  5. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Steroids give you the attributes that Jones had. You cant go around it.
     
  6. LANCE99

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    PED's don't make you a gifted athlete in the sense RJJ was.

    BTW, you are aware that aside from the Richard Hall fight, he's tested clean?
     
  7. LANCE99

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    Steroid will not give you instantly faster than normal hand speed, or give you the reflexes he had.
     
  8. mirkofilipovic

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    Yes it will. Which is why all the most prolific track stars took steroids.
     
  9. Loudon

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    No they don't you nut.

    PEDS are rife today.

    Who today can do this:

    https://imgur.com/gallery/dkADuyL

    ??
     
  10. mirkofilipovic

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    “Steroids does not impact athleticism.” - Loudon 2017.
     
  11. Loudon

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    Seriously, you need to see a psychiatrist.

    Sort yourself out.
     
  12. mirkofilipovic

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    PED’s are more controlled today, they still exist, but back in the day it was rampant. Which is why subsequent steroid acts were passed in the 80’s and 90’s. Today athletes reduce their intake to pass drug tests. Back in the day people were roided through the gills.
     
  13. mirkofilipovic

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    “ PED’s does increase performance, but it didnt increase Roys performance despite taking them, Roy is natural.” Loudon 2017.
     
  14. Rock0052

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    1) he wasn't subject to testing at all for much of his championship career. Most states didn't require it, nor did the sanctioning bodies. Can't fail if you're not tested, but that doesn't mean you tested clean, either.

    2)had Hall himself not spilled the beans, nobody would've realized he failed the test in Indiana. Ever. That information didn't even come out until a couple years after the fight, and was purposely swept under the rug by the IBF, who refused to follow up on the positive test or punish him for it.

    That doesn't sound to me like a one and done steroid use case. That sounds like a system protecting its stars.
     
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  15. LANCE99

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    All the most? who are these 'all the most"? RJJ had blazing fast handspeed from the get go. He didn't 'all of a sudden' get fast or have great reflexes and athleticism.