Oscar: I want to make Canelo vs GGG rematch, but Lemieux is another option.

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  1. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dangerous fight for Alvarez. He's the better boxer but Lemieux has real power. If this is an option before the rematch it could end up disastrous for team Alvarez. Less money, big risk and isn't a massive fight. It would be a significant win for Canelo if he performs better than GGG did against Lemieux. But that's a big "if".
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    First I hear of GGG or Charlo being on PEDs. Man some people just want to baselessly smear fighters no respect.

    And Oscar being a badass? No he's just a promoter who's company wants to protect their cash cow no surprise.
     
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  3. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    GGG has been on PEDs? First time hearing that....He's been VADA tested for a while now which doesn't mean he's clean, but it's by far the most reliable testing in the sport. If we are to assume he's dirty then we have to assume every other boxer is as well especially the boxers who aren't VADA tested.
     
  4. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    You're a joke of a poster who knows nothing about boxing who's American but hates American fighters. You also think there's a conspiracy against EE fighters with no evidence. Ggg is doing vada testing just like the Charlo twins are but the charlos are doping according to you. Despite the fact that GGGs power has fallen off a cliff but the Charlos are still knocking people out. You didn't package anything you did what you did because you could not form a sensible reply to address the issue.
     
  5. Pimp C

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    The Charlo s are vada tested as well but according to these agenda having haters they are doping yet ggg is clean.
     
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  6. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There's more of an arguement that Canelo didn't be Trout than attempting to argue GGG didn't beat Canelo. The draw was recorded but the overall consensus is GGG beat Alvarez clearly. Trout shouldn't even be brought up as a possible opponent for Golovkin at this point since he lost to Charlo....it would be a better fight to match GGG with Charlo, Saunders or Lemieux (again) than Austin.

    That's only if Golden Boy is reluctant in doing the rematch with Canelo which seems to be the case. The immediate rematch makes the most sense from a business standpoint as it clearly generates the most revenue but based on the way things went in the first fight with Golovkin It seems as though team Alvarez and Golden Boy are satisfied with getting away with a draw for the time being.

    It's a big fight whenever it happens so there's no rush, but Canelo is probably looking at a fight with Lemieux or Saunders before stepping back in with Golovkin. By that time Golovkin could lose or Canelo could lose or both could end up losing. I don't think it's a smart decision to delay the rematch unless both camps take light touches to ensure the maintain the integrity of the rematch between theses two
     
  7. Pimp C

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    Nah the rematch favors canelo he's the better boxer and he will win it and historically that has usually been the case. They want the rematch but it will be in September not in may.
     
  8. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Just rematch GGG. Why wait till he gets older (we know why).
     
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  9. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There's too many accusations being tossed around without evidence to support such claims. I honestly can't stand how this has become such a hot topic in boxing. It takes away from what these guys accomplish inside the ring based on absolutely nothing
     
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    Whether or not that's true, the fact remains Alvarez and his team aren't the ones bending over backwards to secure the immediate rematch. Golovkin's camp said they were ready to take the rematch before the end of the calendar year. My only question is why wait? It makes more sense to piggyback off the momentum of the first fight and maximize their profits. Holding off and taking interim fights only allows the chance either fighter could lose or allows for the demand to dwindle.

    I actually feel Alvarez will do a lot better in the rematch for the reasons you mentioned. He's a better boxer from a technical perspective and has the ability to make adjustments. That doesn't necessarily mean he will win whenever the rematch happens but I know Canelo won't use the same strategy he did in the first fight because strategically it allows Golovkin to control the fight.
     
  11. Staminakills

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    But timing, reaction time and speed are the first things to go. Which are all vastly superior and greatly more important than straight up power. Timing and ones reaction are the attributes directly correlated to landing any clean shots, consistently.

    I feel like I'm dealing with the most ignorant trolls on the daily here. Please tell me you understand theses facts
     
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  12. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Look at who ggg has NOT been knocking out, I'm not sure either charlo could be truly competitive with either.
    One knocked out a tiny chinny 4 rounds fighter in Williams and half a fighter in Hayes ill one legged brother. None of you kids put things in its proper context, ever
     
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  13. STEPHEN1990

    STEPHEN1990 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Doesn't surprise me Lara and trout didn't get there rematch after Canelo escaped with the wins so this will be no different absolute coward
     
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  14. Kevin Willis

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    Just because you are enrolled in the CBP does not mean you are VADA tested year around like GGG. This drug testing scam is just a shell game to keep N. American fighters and a few Brits at the forefront of the sport. UkAD, USADA, VADA all have the same type of person with the same passports on their board of governors, making the rules and deciding who they test and who they do not.

    Your default setting is how I know nothing about this sport but in truth I know far too much and what I uncover damages people fantasy view of reality. I actually stop digging most of the time because what I find sickens me so much I recoil in horror.
     
  15. shadow111

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    How do you figure? The report said that DLH wants to first make the rematch with G, but that a convincing Lemieux win is another option.

    DLH has indicated that rematch talks won't start until the beginning of the 2018. I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a BJS Lemieux rematch either if it's close or controversial. The most likely scenario seems to be a Canelo G rematch in May with the winner possibly facing whoever is the WBO Champ in September. Another possibility is for Canelo G to fight twice in 2018 if the rematch produces another close or controversial decision. As much as we're all hoping for a clear winner in the rematch, if it goes to decision and it's even remotely close, fans are still going to be arguing over who won and there would likely be an appetite for a Trilogy.

    In any event, I just don't see why either G or Canelo would want to fight either of those guys before having their rematch. By either guy fighting Lemieux or BJS before the rematch, they would be risking the guaranteed revenue of the Canelo G rematch which is what the public wants to see more.

    If G was going to fight somebody else before next May, it would have made the most sense for him to fight Lemieux or BJS in December, but that's not happening since Lemieux and BJS are fighting each other then.

    I think most boxing fans would be disapointed if Canelo G doesn't happen in May 2018. We can't really look any further than that at this point. Both Canelo and G camps have expressed a desire to make the rematch happen, so I would expect regardless of the outcome of BJS Lemieux for the Canelo G rematch to be announced in January or early February 2018.
     
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