Frank Warren is an awful, behind the times promoter & Frampton/DeGale have committed career suicide

Good post.

I feel for Frank though. How can you compete with the SKY machine? Sky machine farms casuals off of football etc. Sky news can even post updates on upcoming fights etc It really looks simple to promote across the platform and build profiles. Either Eddie makes it look easy or it really is easy, I suspect the latter.

 

Agree Sky helps but I do feel Eddie is on the ball. He has a good team at matchroom who understand new media. They utilise things like twitter to the max.

Even Joshua who one could argue doesn’t need a marketing machine they still push him non stop.

No different to say McDonald’s. Biggest restaurant in the world, yet you don’t see them stop advertising burgers.

 

Hearn actually summed up the DeGale situation quite well in the latest uncut interview; he couldn't offer James the calibre of fight he wanted at the time he wanted due to A) the WBSS, B) DeGale's untimely injury and C) previous commitments already made for December so naturally James looked elsewhere.

Fully agree with Frampton though. Carl has all the hallmarks to be Hearn's #2 behind Joshua but he shot himself in the foot signing with Warren because Frank doesn't know what it takes to build and maintain a #1. With Frank he'll just be another BJS. Being Irish he'd also be quite marketable stateside as well so Hearn's increasingly stacked calendar of UK shows would be far less of an issue, no way does Frank have what it takes to bring Frampton any success on the east coast.

Could have been worse though, could have signed with Mick.

 

I'm from Northern Ireland. Everyone knows Frampton here. How hard was it to put his fights in the Odyssey Arena or Windsor Park? He could have did that for a few fights then had the Cruz fight in Vegas and LOADS would have travelled.

And if you really wanted to be a USA fighter you would have had to been built in NY (large Irish population). Not going to ****ing Texas then Vegas.

Pisses me off seeing how his career was managed. McGuigan blew it big style.

EDIT Also not getting the Re Match in BELFAST LOL

 

Frampton is not stupid,he probably put something in that contract if Warren does not get him the Windsor Park Fight.To get Santa Cruz that will be another matter in itself,but i think getting Carl a fight at Windsor Park should not be that Hard for Warren and his Team.MTK i really dont like the look of them,Macklin and them lot must've have adviced towards Fish eyes,even though they appear regulary on Sky.I worry for Frampton.Hint,Frank got him in a headlock,he tries to leave once he realises he is not getting LSC,he better get that court suit and lawyers ready.Frank would rather kill himself than give him back to Edward

 

I think this is what has happened as well, but I just can't for the life of me see how Frampton has any faith in Warren to make the long term investment pay off. Just look at the stagnation of Flanagan's and Saunders' careers under Warren.

Yeah McGuigan botched the American expansion big time, absolutely no reason why one of the Cruz fights couldn't have happened on the east coast. Especially given how anticipated the rematch was. But to be fair to Barry the failure to get Cruz over to Ireland was largely down the the Mexican and his dad. I like Leo, he's entertaining and seems like a gent but my estimations of him went down a bit after that. Frampton traveled, upset the odds and even obliged a rematch on US soil when he could have easily held the belt to ransom and demanded the second fight take place in Ireland, the least Leo could have done was return the favour for the deciding rubber.

 

Is this guy on the wind up?

or just plain stupid?

 

Wasn't Warren's last card like 8 hours long and ran until 2am?
Guy's a joke.

 

Some people are crossing the line,I have my Digs at Warren,but he is a HOF Promoter and has been in Boxing longer than most people on this forum.He Probably been Promoting since most of you have been in your undies.Warren is still a hugely respected figure in British Boxing,and has given us so much,so should warrant more respect.Yes he is past his sell by date,but i'm sure his sons play a huge part in the overall promoting and buisness duties,so some of the blame should be shafted to them.Without BT and Boxnation,don't underestimate their presence it forces Matchroom and Sky to keep at a high level regarding Match ups and it gives a alternative to those who dont have Sky.Warren whatever you say about him has still got a solid stable,without the primary broadcaster in the UK,Frampton,De Gale.Then Saunders,Dubois and Yarde.Add fo that if Fury comes back into the mix,still decent and plays small role in why British Boxing is it a all time high.Frank Has been their through all era's From Benn-Eubank-Naz-Bruno-Calazaghe-Present.

 

Your OP is full of garbage and is factually inaccurate.

Surely you don't believe this nonsense.

 

I don't think either are much of a loss to Matchroom.