Frank Warren is an awful, behind the times promoter & Frampton/DeGale have committed career suicide

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  1. Dragon Punch

    Dragon Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When putting things in context, No other promoter would have been able to put BJS in the position he is in now. In fact most would have thrown in the towel along time ago.

    All the of saunders BS/injuries/pullots/personal issues etc Frank has dealt with that and got him in position to get a world title belt.

    Now after all of the struggles, Saunders is being paid a fortune to fight Lemieux on HBO and then hes lined up for Canelo/GGG for life changing money. Yes, he has been brilliantly promoted.
     
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  2. MrTombourineMan

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    Ah ****, I stand corrected, my bad. I thought they were both in Vegas for some reason.
     
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  3. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They won't agree. Probably say if he was with hearn.....blah blah blah.

    Let's be honest though. Out of all the top 10 British fighters how many are actually with Hearn? Maybe 2?

    Why is that he is seen as this guaranteed golden goose of British boxing amongst fans? Seems real boxers aren't that interested in working with him but some keyboard promoters/accountants will tell you they are wrong! Haha Its hilarious when you think about it
     
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  4. kasabian19

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    Hearn is about entertainment and making money.

    FW is about boxing and making money.
     
  5. Matt Petley

    Matt Petley Active Member Full Member

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    sorry, you're wrong, here's why:
    you say no other promoter could have done what warren has done, why couldnt hearn? he has got Paul smith multiple world title fights, same with other fighters that arguabley didnt deserve them - charlie edwards, anthony crolla, ricky burns. and what do you mean put bjs in the position he is now? he's had 2 defenses in 2 years - 1 against a no one in a leisure centre and 1 against an opponent who is average, bjs should be a big name in boxing now but he isn't.
    You mention that warren has got him a world title belt despite all the issues with pull outs and injuries etc, well if you get your facts right all those issues have happend since he on the world title, his career didnt have any stop-starts before he won the belt.
    yes he is getting paid great money for lemuiex fight, this is not to do with warren, lemuiex is his mandatory so he has to fight him, just so happens lemeuix's team are paying a lot so they can host the fight in canada.
    Finally you say he is lined up for ggg/canelo life changing money which is correct, but they are only gonna fight him cos of the belt, not because hes a big draw, casuals dont know bjs so the ppv will flop in the uk as warren hasnt built his profile at all. simple.
     
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  6. nurological

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    Hearn couldnt get Callum smith a title fight for the best part of 3 years! He couldnt get Brook in with anybody of note in a packed WW division, he hasnt delivered for a few fighters.

    BJS is a promoters nightmare imo. He is a brilliant boxer but his style isnt fan friendly and he can beat pretty much anybdy at his weight which makes him hard to match.
     
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  7. Dragon Punch

    Dragon Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mate, you can’t compare BJS to Paul Smith ffs. All Hearn had to do was answer his phone when the German promoters came calling asking for him to supply Smith as they wanted an easy patsy to come over to fight one of their champions - it’s hardly a suitable example of wonderful promotion.

    Listing all of the fighters who have had world title fights is pretty pointless as well in relation to the debate.

    BJS is actually a world level fighter who Frank has built up from the start of his career and has done it on BN and not with the power of sky. He’s not going to get th call to come over to face a champion as an opponent. Frank got him to mandatory and then did the deal to give him Lee for the belt- no doubt taking a financial loss in the process . If you know anything about boxing you will know about all the BS that’s surrounds Billy- changing trainers like clothes/ drinking/gaining weight/ billys own personal demons etc he is not an easy character to promote.
     
  8. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    Hearn was able to secure GGG not only for Eubank but also for Brook.

    Warren failed to do so for Saunders, also failed to secure Canelo.
     
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  9. liger1992

    liger1992 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    C'mon we all know Warren has a special relationship with the WBO. He doesn't have to do much to get his fighters a shot at WBO titles.
     
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  10. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think you are missing the point of what people are trying to say. You have a weird hate for Warren and blind love for Hearn.

    BOTH have negatives but you only focus on the negatives of 1 promoter. Like i said if Hean is such a boxing god why arent all the british boxers clamoring to be on matchroom?
     
  11. liger1992

    liger1992 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    TBA says hi.
     
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  12. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    I think you are the one with the issue here, I gave reasons for all my points in my OP. Yet people like you conveniently forget to discuss these and instead throw out "omg you hate Warren"

    You've added nothing constructive other than to say your own opinion. I'm just telling it how it is and that Warren isn't the force he once was because he hasn't adapted with the times. My original points about Frampton making a big mistake still stand.

    Hearn forced British boxing into an exceptionally strong position, but yeah it's just "blind love" for Hearn, lol.
     
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  13. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ill try again

    Like i said if Hearn is such a boxing god why arent all the british boxers clamoring to be on matchroom?
     
  14. Ty577

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    UK boxers mate,or the Irish will get mad?
     
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  15. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Haha my bad!