If you were Blackburn, how would you have Louis fight Tyson?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Tyson didn`t use head movement against Holy in their first fight. Louis never used a high guard he always had his lead hand slightly extended in line with his opponents centre line so the jab would be more likely to land problem wit that was he left his lead low after he jabbed and could be caught with counter rights like he was in the first Schmeling fight.
     
  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Rooney would do more than shout a series of numbers and hope for the best! You are getting Rooney mixed up with Jay Bright who was in Tyson`s corner for his dreadful display in first Holy fight, that was not the real Tyson.
     
  3. mcvey

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    We are talking prime here,at his best Tyson had excellent head movement .Louis against Schmeling 1 did not return his left to the guard position after jabbing.This was corrected to a great extent in his future fights .
     
  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Okay thanks, I just watched a film study on how Louis lost against Schmeling and some guy replied angrily why didn`t the channel do a follow up film study on how Louis adjusted and won the rematch so I`ll have to either wait for that or check Louis fights that came after Schmeling 1. I know Tyson had brilliant head movement and that it decreased after he fired Rooney.
     
  5. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    By that I mean how Louis used movement and boxed and countered instead of walking his opponent down like he usually did. I didn't mean it to imply that Baer was similar to Tyson.
     
  6. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Ah yes, the shout and pray method
     
  7. mcvey

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    Tyson was trained on a bag shaped like a torso , same as Jose Torres and Floyd Patterson,it was called "the apparatus" D'Amato would call out sequences of numbers which represented pre-determined combinations,it might be 1, 3. 5 or whatever, they could represent jab, right uppercut ,left hook and they would execute those punches.
     
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    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  9. JohnThomas1

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    EXACTLY right. Jabbing and moving or laying back at all would be the worst thing he could possibly do.

    When Tyson closes aggressively he needs to let his hands go. Other times he could go in blazing then tie Tyson up before he retaliates. He needs to establish his power and the fact that Tyson will be able to attack freely without retribution. I'd also be practising tying his man up in sparring. Louis could potentially compete at mid range tho, he might be the only guy ever who could.

    Louis could sometiems start a bit methodically and there would be no room whatsoever for that in this one. I'd have him thoroughly warmed up and ready to roll from the first second of the fight.

    Tyson is Tyson, he has no plan B. He needs to hope his A game gets him home basically. He just needs to do what he does and hope his strengths are enough to get him home.
     
  10. SambaKing

    SambaKing Member banned Full Member

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    Why are you obsessed with making Mike Tyson threads you strange cretin?
     
  11. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I know I was being faceitious.
     
  12. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    You don't have to reply no one is forcing you to, strange cretin
     
  13. janitor

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    I agree with this.

    I appreciate that Baer and Tyson are not remotely similar, but this is how Louis should do it.

    He backed up just enough to keep Baer walking onto a carefully prepared killing zone, and brained him while he was coming in.

    When an exchange became to his distaste, he spun him out of position, and made him walk through the fire again.
    Baer could have made Louis come after him, but that would not have been an option for Tyson.
     
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  14. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Have Louis use his jab and combos

    Have Tyson swarm him
     
  15. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    If I was Kevin Rooney, I'd call the hospital, looking for donors because Louis is taking Tyson's heart!
     
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