Lennox Lewis vs Joe Frazier

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Lewis vs frazier

  1. Lewis

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  2. Frazier

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  1. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Memphis Tyson and FOTC Frazier are two totally different animals. Tyson's physicality which he relied through out the 90's was all but gone.
     
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  2. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thats what im thinking. Steward would ask him to hit frazier hard early and, if he doesnt get him outta there just lean on him and tire him out until he gets him somewhere later down the line. Lewis only has to watch for one punch, the hook. Frazier doesnt have the size walk lewis down nor the speed to catch him while lewis pushes him back.
    I think Lewis could actually win this fight just with his left, with his right hand superglued to his jaw.
     
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  3. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I dont see how a fighter with serious physical disadvantages and only one truly dangerous punch, regardless of how determined,can beat Lennox Lewis at his best. Sounds like some fairytale stuff to me tbh. Lewis had nearly as much raw power as foreman, more speed and accuracy. I would even back Lewis if he tried to do what foreman did, which is flatten frazier in the first round. Sure Lewis'chin is a question mark, but he managed to slug the first round with tyson without getting caught.
    Sure tyson was shot but he was still dangerous in the first round, more dangerous than frazier(a slow starter) would be in the first round.

    If frazier had as good of a right as he had a hook, his chances would go up but he would still be the underdog because of his lack of speed and the fact that he showed could be hurt, dropped and stopped early by big punchers.

    In order for him to be a real, serious favorite he would need tysons speed, punch variety, footwork and ability to absorb big single punches but keep his stamina, workrate, late round stopping power and toughness.

    Thats how big, powerful, skilled and smart lewis was at his best
     
  4. Barberboy

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    Lennox would be able to control joe for a few rounds however Fraziers stamina and work rate will take its toll imo lennox wouldn't be able to keep him off and gets stopped midway.
     
  5. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I do. I believe Frazier has the better jaw and the bigger heart
    Almost everybody dogs on Frazier over the Foreman fight but they never talk about how he got up from each one of those giant bombs Foreman connected with.
    I think Joe reaches Lewis and stops him
     
  6. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Close fight. Lewis will have success with the jab and Frazier with the body work.
    Lewis by SD, judges do not always give credit to body punching.
     
  7. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed, I think Lewis ahead on the cards starts to wilt around the 12th round and Joe stops him in the next 2 rounds. Lewis may hurt and even drop Joe early but he aint keeping him there. The pace of the fight Joe would set will wear out Lennox.
     
  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I disagree on his chin , both had big hearts but Lewis had ring science too!Frazier was a one trick pony. Lewis met many big punchers Frazier only one,how did that turn out?
     
  9. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Actually I think Lewis would have a hard time connecting on Frazier
     
  10. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Slow roundhouse Foreman didn't seem to have any trouble.

    Oh I forgot Frazier was blind by then and just feeling his way in and relying on the smell of George's deodorant to tell him where he was.
     
  11. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Do not see too much similarities between young Foreman and Lewis, do you?
    Foreman was fearless and reckless with a granit chin while Lewis is much more catous and methodical with a fragile chin.
     
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  12. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    He had one of those blind man's walking canes
     
  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    Bonavena and Chuvalo were semi-big punchers
     
  14. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    I am appreciating Lewis more with every passing year.

    He beat such a varied style of fighter, with examples of many different ways of winning. I think Vitali was ****, same as most, but he WAS the next dominant fighter, and it is so very rare for the 'passing of the torch' to go against the current.

    Arguments about Lewis losing on the scorecards are pretty redundant to me. The tide was turning, and vastly in the older, out of shape, lacking in motivation champion. Tremendous fighter.

    Anyway, Lewis would beat Frazier, either by an early viscious knockout, or, more likely, a pretty dull stinker at range.
     
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  15. mcvey

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    And a chocolate Labrador seeing eye dog!