Should Povetkin, Ortiz and AJ be treated as Wilder wins?

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  1. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    If I say I'm not ready for you on twitter delboy does that mean you have a win over me and take my belts?

    Hmm I'm going to have think this through.
     
  2. Max Thunder

    Max Thunder Proud member of the Cult of Vikings Full Member

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    That could be the only way Wilder is going to have a legit name on his record.
     
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  3. TownBiz

    TownBiz New Member banned Full Member

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    My point is a clear and logical one....if you can refute it, do so with logic. If you can't then of course you're gonna say stupid stuff like calling for me to be banned. That's the hallmark of defeat. You don't like the message, so the response is to kill the messenger.

    Look, both Ortiz and povetkin signed on the dotted line to fight wilder. Wilder was willing to go to RUSSIA, POVETKIN'S HOME TURF!...where povetkin would have all the advantages usually enjoyed by the hometown favorite. what did povetkin do? he tested positive for a banned substance. It's not like wilder was trying to duck him....wilder was willing to go to his country and fight! it was povetkin who basically surrendered saying he can't win without the benefit of an illegal performance enhancing drug.

    Ortiz also, signed on the dotted line....all his years as a top Cuban amateur...being recognized as the most technically proficient hw in the world...claiming everybody is avoiding him...STILL he needed to take PEDs. Why? because he knew he had NO CHANCE to beat wilder...so he also surrendered before he got in the ring.

    AJ was asked the question point blank and responded point blank saying "i'm not ready to fight wilder at this point"...an admission of surrender and defeat.

    These are not my opinions...these are DOCUMENTED FACTS!...right there in front of y'alls eyes! the FACTS lead to one conclusion and one conclusion only. these men admitted they were not able to defeat wilder at this point given their natural abilities. therefore, they should count as defeats against them and wins for wilder.

    I don't know how much clearer I can make this.
     
  4. TownBiz

    TownBiz New Member banned Full Member

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    wait, are you blaming wilder for this?...like wt actual f! is wilder supposed to go to Ortiz and povetkin's camp and look over their shoulder and make sure they don't take PEDs? this is the strangest sport where the guy who doesn't cheat gets blamed for the actual cheaters.
     
  5. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    This guy should be killed and then banned.
     
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  6. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    I've called out nearly all world champions and loads of other fighters on twitter, no replies as of yet.

    I'm cleaning up boxing, Mayweather will have to come back soon because I will be a 17 weight world champion and 60-0 by this time tomorrow.

    Hard Work and Twitter Conversation.
     
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  7. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    You know all these guys that claim to hate boxers because of their rabid and delusional fans?

    They really must hate Wilders' guts after they read this :lol:
     
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  8. TownBiz

    TownBiz New Member banned Full Member

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    that's right...play dumb so you don't actually have to use the fkin brain cells in your head and come up with an intelligent response to a logical proposition.
     
  9. TownBiz

    TownBiz New Member banned Full Member

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    OK, so what you're saying is, i'm RIGHT in what I say....but you just don't like to hear it said. at least have the decency to put it in those terms.
     
  10. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    I would come up with an intelligent response (well I'd try at least, no guarantees) if the thread was remotely intelligent.
     
  11. TownBiz

    TownBiz New Member banned Full Member

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    is it or is it not true that wilder and povetkin signed to fight?

    is it or is it not true that wilder agreed to go to Russia to fight povetkin?

    is it or is it not true that povetkin tested positive for a banned substance?

    is it or is it not true the dirty test caused the fight to be cancelled?

    is it or is it not true that the banned substance povetkin was caught taking gives an unnatural advantage, thereby constituting cheating?

    is it or is it not true that cheating is an admission of defeat?

    is it or is it not true that an admission of defeat is win for the opponent?

    does it not follow logically that wilder should get credit, even unofficially for defeating povetkin?
     
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  12. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Sure, if that's what you got from my statement then that's what you should believe.
     
  13. TownBiz

    TownBiz New Member banned Full Member

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    so, show my why it's not intelligent...you the expert. school me on where I went wrong.
     
  14. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Source.....
     
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  15. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm far from an expert on anything, there are far more intelligent and knowledgeable posters than me on here, far more.

    I can't really help you if you think what you typed makes any sense.


    Maybe I'd agree with you if you said "if there is a fight and a fighter test positive after the fight then regardless of the result the clean fighter gets a W instead of it being a NC"

    That I'd get on board with, makes sense to me, but to suggest you should just give fighters wins because certain fights haven't happened or happened yet is just ridiculous.
     
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