That was one of the coolest Knockouts I ever seen

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by reznick, Nov 4, 2017.


  1. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The win means nothing plain and simple. Stiverne was nothing more than a punching bag. Fat, out of shape, no head movement, no game plan, sitting I perfect range.
    I know it got everyone excited that is what it was designed to do. But open your eyes for moment Wilder is 32 years old, with 39 fights under his belt he still has faced only 1 top 10 fighter in his career.
    That's not an accident.
    And this fight was actually the first fight that was set up where he executed what his handlers had hoped. Let's be clear he was supposed to do this to Molina, and all the other defenses.
    I will say his punches had more snap tonight and his right hand was straighter. But it was like punching at a heavybag. Easy work.
    Guy's career is still completely underwhelming no matter what showtime is trying to sell you.
     
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  2. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    No. Meaning every time you step into a ring, you run the risk of death, injury, and especially long term health risks.
    You're degrading your brain every time you do it. You're definitely not getting smarter, or improving your health. Even sparring run those risks.
    And compared to other sports, the effects can be drastic.

    Stivern is not just some bum.
    That term has become over saturated and watered down.
    He had to prove himself at the gym.
    Then the amateurs.
    Then the pro scene.
    Then being a champion.
    Most don't make it out of the first step.

    And now you have this really awesome performance, and people want to degrade it based on what context?
    Who are these boxers with superhuman feats that are making Wilders accomplishments look paltry?

    It's just whiney entitled brats who have unrealistic expectations that don't have logical or reasonable grounding in reality or history. That's why the UFC is such a good brand. Even when the fighters lose, the fans still revere the fighters. Here in boxing, we discard them, and cast them away like trash. It's stupid. And for the sake of boxing, and the quality of the sports future, that stigma must die out.

    If we can appreciate a Mike Tyson 1 Round KO over his non-elite opposition, we can sure as hell appreciate this fireworks KO from Wilder.
     
  3. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your entire argument falls to pieces in the real world where people get worse over time. He has some good achievements in his career. That's completely irrelevant to where is is at right now which is bum status.
     
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  4. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    You really haven't heard?
    I guess I'm the one to break the news to you.
    But Povetkin and Ortiz dropped out because they were using banned substances.
     
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  5. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    No, it doesn't hinge on that fact whatsoever.
     
  6. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Wilder is doing exactly what he's supposed to do with the level of opposition put in front of him! He could have 2 decent opponents on his resume if not for the PED use. Hopefully he gets AJ in the ring next year! Finally see who's the champ and who's the chump!
     
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  7. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    No no no, Stivern hasn't fought in two years.
    Wilder was supposed to do a cartwheel, backflip, spinning 360 KO in 5 seconds flat.
    Only then may you color me impressed.
    *Sips Tea*
    Good day to you sir.
     
  8. ATG22

    ATG22 Active Member Full Member

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    I thought just the opposite actually. He looked like a bafoon. If he was cool, he would have walked away from Stiverne’s corpse like a G.

    The way he showboated and got into it with the ref showed he doesn’t have one iota of class. Beating a man and celebrating is one thing, but KOing him and acting like that is pretty ridiculous.

    When I first learned of Wilder, he was probably around 27, 28, maybe 29-0. Tall guy, big puncher. Murican. Then the story about his daughter. He was a likeable guy, one you could root for. But with each and every fight of his I’ve watched (which is all since he became a name), he’s acted like a bigger and bigger clown.

    Conversely, the few fights of Joshua I’ve seen he’s acted like the consummate professional. He seems humble and appreciative. The anti-Wilder.

    If/when they fight, I’ll be rooting for the guy across the pond, AJ.
     
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  9. Ilesey

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    It was a good finish, even taking into account the opponent.
     
  10. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Wilder holds his hands very low for a guy packing glass. Stiverne looked like he was on the super size me diet during training. I wouldn't hold too much weight on this victory, Wilder had still avoided any live body thus far.
     
  11. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    It so appears the rumors were correct, that Haymon and Don King made a deal for Stiverne to take a dive early. Stiverne had only 1 fight in 3 years, had not fought at all in 2 years................taking a dive would explain why he came in fat, did not train, why should he? Stiverne did not deserve to be ranked at all, much less mandatory, shame on the WBC.................
     
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  12. obelector

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    wilder really is awfull isnt he?

    he looked terrible even with a R1 KO. horrible technique, no wonder he is being protected. an accident waiting to happen as he opens up his whole body to telegraph the launch of one of those weird straight armed cricket bowlers.

    Windmilling is exactly the term that comes to mind. the more i see of him wailing away against hopeless slobs the worse and worse he looks. how does he think hes going to improve? or is it a case of trying to build a cash out fight?
     
  13. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Then you'd know that beating a 39 year old guy who isn't ranked, didn't fight in 3 years, who came in the heaviest ever in his career and who didn't throw up a punch is pretty much worthless in the grand scheme of things. Stiverne came to pickup a paycheck, not to fight.
     
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  14. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    I think almost everyone knew the fight was a sick joke on boxing fans...............WWE for sure!
     
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  15. Shempz

    Shempz Active Member Full Member

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    Nonsense of a fight.

    Wilder may as well have fought Brown Bottle or Cider Woman.