Foreman never defeated ayone near as good as Ali but remind me what happened again when he fought Frazier? Holmes, Tyson, Holyfield, Dempsey, Marciano, Louis and Liston never beat anyone as good as Ali either, think he beats them all too? Jesus H. Shallow thinking.
Who is saying Lewis beats Frazier only because he is big? Are you on drugs? You are a troll and it's becoming obvious you simply get off on attention.
I didn't say that Lewis beats Frazier only because he's big. you said Lewis was huge with enormous power, even bigger than Foreman. Like that alone was enough. and this business of calling me a troll each time you cannot disagree with my point is getting more outrageous. You guys win the thread. I am fine with that. That is okay. That's why I am not calling you anything. I am simply offering my reasoning on my decision here. And posting video of Lewis examining his style and approach to Frazier sized guys who were not great. I have maintained all along that this certainty you have that Frazier loses is because you cannot distinguish between the Frazier of the Ali fight and the Frazier after he ceased to be a great fighter. Foreman is your only answer isnt it? But that's ok. Just don't get personal.
This is what you said - Well if the only reason Lewis beats Frazier is because he's bigger than Foreman what about Bob sapp? He's even bigger than Lennox Lewis isn't he? This is the kind of simplistic basis of your logic isn't it? You are very certain about it too. Nobody has said Lewis beats him just because he is big. Don't pretend anybody did. To claim such a thing you simply have to be trolling. You know full well nobody made such a claim.
No I don't have to be trolling if I think that's what you meant. What is wrong with you? Saying Foreman and Lewis are "both huge with enormous power" is emphasising an importance of size isn't it? Introducing Bob Sapp as an example of size is not what you want it to be. Sorry about that but it is not. None of this is personal.
Foreman was huge with enormous power and he decimated Frazier twice. Lewis is huge with enormous power and it is very likely he would do the same. Why are you so hung up with big guys with power? Liston Foreman Lewis Joshua Army regulation height etc The spinks experiment etc All very strange..
I think chocklab has told you (once or twice maybe) that Frazier was finished as a great fighter by the time he fought George. It seems you think he was however so this debate is a non starter with you!
I posted back to you regarding this exact claim (Lewis and just size) in the who beats Lewis thread elaborating it wasn't just size yet here you are mere days later throwing the same thing at me. Can you understand this is annoying??!?!!?!
90% of the classic forum knows where Frazier was career wise when he fought Foreman. As long as chok brings up fights like McCall as meaningful the Foreman fight will certainly be thrown back. I have said this elesewhere. 95%+ of the Classic forum doesn't believe Frazier at any stage of his career would have won that fight. There was no logic to your earlier statement whatsoever as my response showed.
The state Frazier was in for Foreman is not even in the same time zone as Lewis was for McCall, what a stupid comparison to make.
But surely 0% believe Foreman and Lewis were the same person. What percent believes Frazier was as good against Ali as he was against Foreman? Probably zero.