Bermane Stiverne vs. Deontay Wilder RBR

twopiece · Jan 17, 2015

In my opinion, Wilder needed a fight like this prior to winning a belt. If he fought and won this type of UD over Stiverne about 10 fights ago, then it would have done him even more good.

Either way, he proved a lot of people wrong tonight, regardless of Stiverne not being that great in reality. It was a good, entertaining fight to me.

Nonito Smoak · Jan 17, 2015

Was wrong about this one...

conraddobler · Jan 17, 2015

twopiece said: ↑

In my opinion, Wilder needed a fight like this prior to winning a belt. If he fought and won this type of UD over Stiverne about 10 fights ago, then it would have done him even more good.

Either way, he proved a lot of people wrong tonight, regardless of Stiverne not being that great in reality. It was a good, entertaining fight to me.
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what if he fought Stiverne 10 fights ago and got knocked out. Would that have done him good?

nervousxtian · Jan 17, 2015

conraddobler said: ↑

what if he fought Stiverne 10 fights ago and got knocked out. Would that have done him good?
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Yeah, that criticism makes no sense.

Wilder today is much better in every way possible than the Wilder that fought Manswell/Beck (10 fights ago).

MrFoFody · Jan 17, 2015

Wilder kos Fury without too much trouble

MonkeyEarMuffs · Jan 18, 2015

Regardless of how I feel about Wilder, I have to support him. He has a great story, he's a fun character, and it's nice to see him grow. I wish we got a HW belt back in the states in another way, but I'll take what I can get... Ah, what the hell, Boooooomb Squuuuuuaaaad! (Man, why does that feel dirty?!)

CST80 · Nov 5, 2017

Its always fun to go back and read what people were saying before big fights, strange, seems like everyone rated Stiverne very highly, and most picked him to KO Wilder.

Badbot · Nov 5, 2017

CST80 said: ↑

Its always fun to go back and read what people were saying before big fights, strange, seems like everyone rated Stiverne very highly, and most picked him to KO Wilder.
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I remember picking Stiverne. He had fast hands and decent pop, so i was hoping that he could get Wilder kinda like he got Arreola.
Stiverne was what Breazeale is now.

CST80 · Nov 5, 2017

Badbot said: ↑

I remember picking Stiverne. He had fast hands and decent pop, so i was hoping that he could get Wilder kinda like he got Arreola.
Stiverne was what Breazeale is now.
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Here's the evolution of my thoughts on the first match in the vCash thread.

CST80 said: ↑

I'm very conflicted, I'm not kneejerk anti-Wilder like a lot of people on this forum, does he have a glass jaw.... yes he does, but he also hits like a mofo, and Stiverne is being vastly overrated by a lot of people based on his win over Arreola, who doesn't rate very highly in my book, even though I like watching Chris fight. Bermane gets hit way too often, waiting to throw his perfect counter shot, and that will be his undoing, he will wait too long and Deontay will hit him with a good shot or a few and hurt him and ref will jump in a stop the match, maybe too early, so I'm going with the Bronze Bomber on this one.
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CST80 said: ↑

Bermane is being brutally overrated by anti-casual elitists so eager to show how smart they are, seeming to forget Wilder hits really ****in hard, a lot of people may end up being disappointed by he outcome.

The Anti-hype Hype Groupthink is overtaking the forum pretty badly on this one, when in reality whoever hits the other with the hardest punch first will win by KO, and that will most likely be The Bronze Bummer.
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Rumsfeld said: ↑

Why do you think Wilder is more likely to strike first? I agree first big punch lands, but seeing Wilder struggle to land on cab drivers and bar tenders leads me to believe Stiverne - the more skilled of the 2 - should find a way to land first. And it may not need to be a devastating shot for him to drop Wilder.
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CST80 said: ↑

I'm not head over heels for Deontay, he may very well get KTFO, but I just don't think Bermane is all that, he's never impressed me and as IB pointed out it was just Arreola and people are overrating those wins quite a lot, I don't think Wilder is going to go in windmilling with no plan, I think he's going to fight more cautiously like he did against Price, he knows what a threat Stiverne could potentially be and won't go out of his way to give him chances to counter him. Arreola got KO'd because Arreola played right into his hands and still it took 1 and a half matches to land the perfect shot and get Chris out of there, the first match the shot broke his nose but he wasn't out on his feet like in the second match.

I think Wilder will stay out of Bermane's range, measure him and try to land as many straight rights as he can and won't put himself in the position to get KO'd early and if Bermane stays true to form he won't come out charging looking for a KO either.
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