GGG is - at the very least - the Greatest middleweight since Hagler

To this day James Toney officially beat Dave Tiberi.

 

Way to backtrack. Recalling " round by round is not easy " lol. I asked you a very simple question : which rounds did you have Canelo winning? You can't even get your story straight. First you had Canelo winning Round 1,3,10&12, now you have Canelo winning 1,3,11&12 but you "can't remember"?? But your positive the fight wasn't close? Again all you need is 2 more rounds from your 4 rounds (whichever they were since you can't remember lol) that you gave to Canelo to get to a draw. Rounds 2 and 10, the two rounds you would need to arrive at a draw, were clearly not one-sided dominant rounds for Triple G. In fact, pretty much everybody agrees those were two of Canelo best rounds of the fight. It makes no sense for you to argue the fight wasn't close when those two rounds were certainly (at worst - if you gave them to Triple G) close so therefore the fight would be close since whether or not it was a draw or a G win would depend on those two rounds that Canelo clearly did well in that you apparently gave to G.

I don't rely heavily on the judges, but of course I feel better about my card if I'm not outside of their extremes. The fact is that you gave G more rounds than any of the 3 judges gave him. That doesn't mean you're wrong, but naturally I'd expect you to explain your reasoning as to why you gave G some of these rounds that none of the judges gave him. Then you up the ante by claiming absurdities like the fight wasn't close, GBP influenced the judges, etc. I'm not exactly riding with the judges, I disagreed with the judges on several of the rounds, like Round 4, but I also made it clear that that round was very close and I could totally see how they or someone like you would score it for Triple G. So in doing that I come off as more reasonable since I, unlike you, admit that many of the rounds are close and could be scored for either fighter. You, on the other hand, don't come off as reasonable since you do not admit that many of the rounds or the fight as a whole was close. There's the difference.

 

At least you're admitting who the Lineal Champ is. And yes, you're right, he's never won a fight at the 160 lb limit. But of course there isn't a requirement to weigh-in at the MW limit. As you know, for MW Title Fights Lineal or Otherwise, you need to weigh in at 160 lb or below.

 

Lol!

 

Sheesh! What?? And James Toney is my guy. Even James said he lost

 

If you go to the bog in Shadow's house and close the door, you will find a large flat screen TV glued to the back of the door with GGG /Canelo looping endlessly on it. Facts.

 

Notice the inverted commas. They're ironical.

 

Cool story bro. Keep telling yourself that lmao.

 

Lol. Which rounds Canelo won? Very few, 3 at best...maybe 4 if I am Santa.

You put a lot of weight on how the judges called the fight for saying you don’t consider their perspective at all.

There’s a lot of deferences between us. Nothing worth getting into. But as I said many times before. There weren’t but a few close rounds that I gave to Alvarez

 

Are you sure you aren't reading my posts through a mirror?

 

AND I have it on good authority* that instead of a mirror over your water bed, there's another flat screen TV on the ceiling, with carefully edited highlights of GGG/Canelo for maximum viewing pleasure. 6 minutes of them

* Some rumour I heard

 

You don't even know how many rounds or which rounds because you can't remember. Watching it live you said you gave Canelo 5 rounds, then 4, now "3 maybe 4" at one point if I recall you considered only giving him 2 rounds. Face it : you can't decide how many rounds Canelo won. You can't remember which rounds you gave him. That speaks volumes on your own credibility. How can I take you seriously with your flip flopping of rounds won and your foggy memory of the bout lol.

Not really, I'm simply pointing out that it's you, not me who's POV / score / relative closeness of the bout is contrary to that of the official judges. To that you argue GBP or DLH himself influenced not only Byrd but all 3 judges. I mean listen to yourself. There's nothing more I need to say, you're responses and rationale speaks for itself.

Of course it's not worth it for you to get into the differences between us since getting into it further would just make you look more unreasonable and out of touch with reality than you already are ! And as to there only being "a few rounds" that you could give to Alvarez, well once again all 3 judges agreed that rounds 1,2,10,11,&12 went to Alvarez. That's more than a few. You gave Round 2 and 10 apparently to G, without any reasoning or rationale and can't even admit that they were (at worst) close rounds. It speaks for itself. You've failed miserably when asked which rounds you gave to Canelo. You flip flopped on your rounds and have demonstrated that you won't get into specifics when asked about rounds that you can't admit were close when the consensus gave them to Canelo. I on the other hand have been very clear on the rounds that I gave to Canelo and I provided reasoning for my POV.

 

I can.

I gave him 2 and 3.

I had 1, 10, 11 and 12 as rounds that one could argue either way if one were inclined to.

I had 4-9 as GGG rounds.

I had a score of 8-4 to GGG in the end.

 

Is this thread just 26 pages of shadow saying GGG is a bum, Canelo is a god and then the rest of you telling him he's stupid? 'Cause, I'm not going through the whole thing.

 

So you went through the whole thing, eh?

Good precis.

 

OK, sounds like a close fight. 8-4 G with 2 rounds that one could argue either way? Sounds pretty darn close for a draw.

And what about Rounds 4 & 5? Could those be argued either way if one were inclined to? I was inclinded to score Round 4 to Canelo and Round 5 to G, but I see those as essentially as toss up rounds. Personally I thought 10,11&12 were pretty clear Canelo rounds. It's really a stretch to give any of those rounds to G in my view. But to each hs own. Keep in mind that all 3 judges gave 10,11,&12 rounds to Canelo. Then there's Rounds 8 & 9 whch I would consider close as well since Canelo landed the best hardest punches in the round but was outworked slightly on volume. I have no problem with you giving those rounds to G, but I'm inclined to give at least one of those rounds to Canelo due to landing such quality crunching well-place punches since they were quite close and since G didn't land anything as hard or as quality in those rounds.