Wilder’s jab compared to past lineal champs?

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Which past liberal champs had jabs that were clearly superior to Wilder’s? I guess we can probably stipulate the usual names (Ali, Holmes, Liston, and Wlad).
     
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  2. BundiniBlack

    BundiniBlack Well-Known Member Full Member

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    All of them were better
     
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  3. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Wilder has a really good jab and is a good fighter. More than that I think he is Heavyweight Champion of the World and will prove it if Joshua tells Hearns to shut up and fights Wilder. Wilder by KO in 10 I think.
     
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  4. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You may as well put LL above him. I remember watching a Youtube video of LL showing Wilder how to throw a jab.
     
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  5. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    How do we know which boxers of the past were Liberal and which were conservative?
     
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  6. tommyg6

    tommyg6 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    it's Larry Holmes-like! lol jk




    not...
     
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  7. Ilikeboxing

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  8. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lewis is awesome man. So nice to others and helpful.
     
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  9. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I love Wilder at the start and LL's response.
    Wilder "So what are we doing?"
    LL "Throwing a jab"

    He'll be asking AJ that question when the first one lands and he runs for his life.
     
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  10. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Did Ali etc fight Stiverne?? Or any fat slobs coming for a quick last payday???

    Really need to compare apples to apples...
     
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  11. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So far it is as Joshua doing the running. Comn man. Make the fight. No excuses. Not to. Wilder wants it. Have it be next. Betcha Joshua won't. How much you want to bet :) :) :)!
     
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  12. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think it is the most attractive and important fight in the sport. It could bring boxing out of cult status.
     
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  13. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Quite a lot. Wilder doesn't have an especially great jab, IMO. It's not bad, and it does help set up his right hand. But I think quite a few lineal champions have exhibited a better jab. Not all of these guys had Wilder's athleticism or power, but in terms of jabbing.

    Fury
    Wlad
    Lewis
    Moorer
    Holyfield
    Bowe
    Tyson
    Spinks
    Holmes
    Ali
    Foreman
    Liston

    Without going back further, I'd say all the ones I listed are clearly better jabbers in the purest sense (albeit, each of them using it a bit differently in the grand scheme of their individual approaches).
     
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  14. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who's the best jab Wilder has faced in both ams and pro's Rummy? I think in the pros Wilder's jab gets given praise because he's throwing it at guys who don't have one. Like, when Wilder meets a jab himself, from a Usyk, AJ or either Fury I'm not sure he's going to fare to well.
     
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  15. khaosai galaxi

    khaosai galaxi Superbad Full Member

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    One thing for sure, his jabs are long
     
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