GGG is - at the very least - the Greatest middleweight since Hagler

yeh tko6, good result, another bitpart titlist destoryed by lennox.

 

Deflection / stock insults / typical desperate behavior. Clearly I was referring to examples of Gennady's fans being terrified of a rematch, not Gennady himself! Duh!

That's great, but you're unable to show examples on ESB of Canelo fans who created threads suggesting Canelo should duck the rematch like G fans have ! All you can do is quote DLH and what he said about Canelo possibly fighting the winner of Lemieux BJS as an "option" and stuff like that all the while still stressing the G rematch was the priority. I was just calling out Triple G fans and their calling for G to duck the Canelo rematch which there are actual examples of on this very forum.

Cool prediction. We can look back at these 4 points in May and see if they come to fruition. I'll just remind you that going into the first fight, the predictions were that G would go to the body and would knock Canelo out, and we know that those things didn't really come close to happening lol.

Well I'm in agreement with you that after the first fight I wanted to see the rematch as soon as possible. That said, I'm OK waiting until May. As far as when Canelo himself wanted the rematch to happen, I'm not sure he himself refused to fight in December as you're suggesting. I think it's more DLH wanting it on Cinco De Mayo and wanting there to be some time to build it up properly. I think you're still attributing too much of this on to Canelo when in reality it's the promoters that decide when the rematch happens.

Heard this before. I think it's kind of petty to argue that Canelo or his team is stalling when DLH was true to his word that the fight would happen this year when many said it wouldn't. Canelo stepped into the ring with Gennady and that should be applauded. And he's keen for a rematch. That's good enough for me. Gennady's getting older, but frankly the extra 5 months could do Gennady a lot of good. He took some punishement on Sept 16th and it takes longer for older fighters to recover from fights, so really you could argue that's 5 more months of aging, but on the other hand it's 5 more months that G can recover and prepare, so it's really hard to be certain that the extra months will negatively affect G or that it's a clear advantage for Canelo.

 

They're not rhetorical questions, you just don't want me to answer them. I didn't change anything. I was responding to what you said was being reported.

First you said "She has reportedly been suspended/benched from all fight scoring for the unforseeable future."

Then I informed you that she worked a fight Oct 21st.

Then you said "Doesnt change ****, she is done as a major fight judge."

So it was you that changed your tune from all fights to major fights, not the other way around.

In all seriousness, I just used the term "banned" not thinking anything of it. I know you thought it was some elaborate ploy on my end, but I can assure you it wasn't.

You keep insisting that I'm using a strawman, I don't see why you're describing my responses as that because that's not what I'm doing. I'm simply having a dialog with you based on what you're saying and it's nothing more than that. You're jumping to all sorts of conclusions about what I'm saying for whatever reason.

 

You've got major issues upstairs, buddy.

I don't give the slightest slimy blob of fecal matter for the opinions of "Canelo fans" beyond the guy that I'm talking to at that moment. Their opinions mean nothing with regard to the argument at hand.

Uh-oh. You sound like a Golovkin fan!

1) People don't get younger.
2) Golovkin wanted the rematch asap. Clearly he thinks it's in his best interest to have it sooner. Ya know, I'll go with his opinion. Sooner is better.

 

Done on the major fight cards ? Imo its not good enough. If shes officiating again it means they are backing her. She should be gone, have her license terminated !

 

If its not next, i'm not interested. Break the deal, then go your separate ways. GGG is gonna shoot himself in the foot if he waits for them. I'm a huge fan of GGG(shouldn't everyone be), but if he stands around not fighting just waiting, then he will look like a tool imo. Carry on, couple more fights or break Hopkins record and call it a day. **** Canelo and Oscar

 

Bold & italics now? This must be serious. I thought this was about you wanting me to believe how “chill” you were, Herol?

If you want me to believe that, as well as believe you’re a “black guy”...OK, no problem! You are the chilliest black guy on these boards. You feeling better now?

 

Years after it's all over, people will look back and wonder what all the fuss was about. Good fighter, but he'd be an also-ran in any real middleweight era.

 

Lol Hagler No, Pavlik maybe but remember at least Pavlik left no doubts when he fought Taylor, GGG couldn't do that with Jacobs and the smaller Canelo

 

Yep, and those are the only two guys he's fought who are vaguely comparable to top middleweight opposition.

The Hopkins who lost to Kovalev would've humiliated Golovkin, much like a less decayed (but still old) version did with Pavlik.

 

The Hopkins that lost to Kov was a light heavy, if they could have met at a catch weight, I would have no hesitation in picking GGG. Hopkins was too old to deal with the style GGG brings, younger you would have an argument, but educated pressure would've took its toll at that age ! imo

 

3G fans are terrified of a rematch? The same fans who saw 3G beat canelo, are now afraid? Where do you get this garbage? You are entering trump fan level of delusion...

 

dunno hop got killed by smiffie straight after.

 

Yes, she shouldn't be working at all. When normal people mess up on their job that badly they are fired. She has a bad reputation, promoters like Top Rank have actually requested she not judge their fights. The media have called out Bob Bennett on her, she was removed from the October UFC fight card. But according to our friend up there, we all invented this controversy because we are butt hurt GGG fans.

 

Taking two years out at age 50 before picking a big, strong, game, durable puncher for your farewell fight isn't the best idea, and the rust showed in his timing and coordination. Hopkins should've called it a day on the very creditable feat of being the first man to take Kovalev the championship distance while half a century in age. Vanity can get the better of a man, though, and I say that as a pretty big Hopkins aficionado.

The Hopkins of two years prior was much keener. It just so happened that Kovalev was one of the real P4P operators of the last few years.