The thread(which i made) is lennox Lewis vs Frazier at their respective prime, regardless of what they did or didnt take. If that doesnt make for a tasty thread then im sorry. So who do you pick and why?
It makes no difference who can find more lists or not? The fact that there is one list (so far) kind of says it is not unusual or unreasonable to pick Frazier over Lewis doesn't it? You, vanboxingfan and John Thomas have been behaving like it is nonsensical to pick a man who beat Muhammad Ali over Lennox Lewis. And furthermore that anybody who can describe the reasoning behind their decision to pick frazier is idiotic, stupid or a troll.
I've been watching a lot of Lewis's fights recently. Certainly his body changed. But not necessarily in a steroid fashion. Innocent until proven guilty. He had a vast frame to fill. More pertinently, his style changed due to his trainer, and he became better later. I'm not a big Lewis fan, but am becoming one. I'm flip-flopping, I'm sad to say. Although I do like the Lewis who beat Ruddock, too.
They used the word 'stupid' to describe anyone who had the inclination to suggest that one ATG could possibly beat another ATG.
Go to about the 2 minute mark on here then tell me if you remotley think Frazier was compact and strong as a David Tua? Nonsense....lol P.s i was lifting this when i was like 13 /14 ? lol This content is protected Anybody who watches the Foreman fights can see Frazier is soft and overweight,Tua was a natural 225 pounder with not just speed but power as well. obvious Frazier was not meant to fight over 205 and his own son proves that too,who was about 210 and didnt have a chin to last at HW. Lewis would walk through him easily. its not even a fair fight.
Tua is stockier than Frazier, (or anyone), yes. But Frazier is no "smaller". He's an inch or two taller, and he's hardly fatter at the same weight. And Tua was soft at 225 and 230 too. Tua was built like a powerlifter. I'm not sure why people think this is some sort of an advantage though. It isn't.
You haven't given any credible reasons why Frazier beats Lewis,I don't castigate others but you I think are a troll.
Ive shown you the tale of the tape that proves this is totally rubbish why do you persist in saying it ? Tua is miles bigger than Frazier.It's like arguing with Choklab or Mendoza!
Anyway, what is the point of the Superstars video ?? I can press that 160 pound barbell overhead in strict fashion with no leg-drive for reps. Probably due to the fact I lift weights regularly, 2 to 4 times a week, and have done for years. And it has absolutely NOTHING to do with boxing. Frazier would kill me and he would kill men twice as strong as me.