Wilder doesnt deserve the Joshua payday what has he done to earn the fight?

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  1. Outstock

    Outstock PBR Full Member

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    What evidence have you got to claim that he's a nightmare to work with?
     
  2. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    His personality and general demeanour.
     
  3. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hearn is no more looking to cut Wilder a reasonable deal than he is Parker.
     
  4. like a boss

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    He is a nightmare to fight. That is the issue.
     
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  5. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We all know who Wilder has beaten. While AJ might have a better win, it's not entirely enough to make this some ridiculous 70-30 type affair.
     
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  6. bailey

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    I think Pulev may be next and he has arguably the greater resume.
    Some may dispute Parkers resume as greater
    If Haye were to come back and blast out Bellew it would possibly become a big massive domestic PPV fight and Haye also has in my opinion a greater resume.
    If Hammer beats Povetkin as well as beating Erkan he may have some dispute or if Povetkin beats Hammer for example.

    Wilder has had nearly double the fights Joshua has had. I think it should be left for a bit.
    I think if Wilder got a bigger fight first he could force it more
     
  7. theanatolian

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    I don't know why you keep parroting this, but for the 3rd time, Pulev doesn't want it, period. He's looking to fight for the WBA garbage regular belt.
    If Haye knocks Bellew out, he might be next. But that's far from a given.
    Hammer ain't beating Povetkin, who's going after Parker. Neither are available.
    Parker isn't ready for AJ, I don't think his team will rush him into it.

    Wilder holds the WBC title, rated #2 in the division right behind AJ. He's the best available option until Fury cuts 100 lbs fat.
     
  8. RacingBeat

    RacingBeat Casual lives matter Full Member

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    Flat fee,

    A side calls the shots,
     
  9. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I guess it's not entirely wilders fault he tried to challenge, fight, the 2 boogie men. All set to fight povetkin IN RUSSIA then challenged ortiz and a third in between with ALL THREE FAILING PRE FIGHT TESTS.

    Everyone is petrified of getting caught by a glancing wilder straight right. That's a career ender right there
     
  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    So what if Pulev doesnt want it. That doesnt make Wilder a sure thing. Wilder may have to win a big fight first to build the event. We will know more soon enough.
    It could be any HW next for Joshua because he is in the driving seat and just because Wilder may now have decided he wants to face the HW champ may have to wait until he can demand more.

    I think the fight could happen and Wilder has said he would go anywhere but I get the impression he would want a big split and he is not in the same position as Joshua who can sell out stadiums and has 2 titles as well as greater wins.

    I would like to see Wilder in a bigger fight first like Whyte, Breazeale, Martin, Parker. 3 of those are former AJ opponents which is why I feel Wilder may not be able to demand as much
     
  11. like a boss

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    Wilder wants it. Hearn and Joshua don't.
     
  12. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Joshua at the very least earns 10 mill a fight in his last fight against takam he got 15 mill

    wilder earns 1 mill per fight

    how the hell does wilder deserve 30 percent?

    He should get a flat 5 mill
     
  13. theanatolian

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    For starters, I don't like all the "A side, B side, marinate, build up" BS. All that garbage ruined fights in the past, It caused fights to not take place when It mattered. The fight needs to happen while both fighters are undefeated, available and free from mandatory obligations.

    I don't know how much Wilder wants for the fight, because It seems like Hearn won't even entertain the idea of negotiating the AJ fight with him unless he faces Whyte first, and he still won't guarentee the AJ fight even if Wilder agrees to face Whyte.

    And Rio 2016 might be the first olympics where all 4 of the medalists at SHW turned pro. Joshua will have plenty opportunities for rivalries and big fights in the future. He doesn't need to, and shouldn't play the diva game with Wilder.

    A side note: Just take a look at Wlad's career from 2006 to onwards. He fought most of the young, dangerous upcoming contenders, including AJ. He chased Hayei gave him a 50/50 split that he didn't deserve. He chased Povetkin, he travelled to his backyard as thee champion. This is the behavior that's expected from a champion.
     
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  14. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He has something Joshua wants. That adds value and some strength with negotiations. Wilder's stature in the division makes this a big fight.
     
  15. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    stature in the division lol?

    what stature fighting bums?

    Let wilder fight some legit fighters before even thinking of fighting Joshua wilder wont fight top 10 fighters let alone Joshua
     
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