Wilder doesnt deserve the Joshua payday what has he done to earn the fight?

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  1. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Whether you like it or not, Wilder has a presence in the HW division. You are aware that Wilder's two opponents who failed their PED test were both top ten? I'm as hard on Wilder's comp as anyone, but I recognize when things aren't his fault.

    If you would prefer both guys not facing one another just because YOU have some issues with a potential purse that has squat to do with you, then we see what really concerns you.
     
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    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    But did he fight them? why did he make such a big deal he could of easily still fought them but he never.

    Wilder would be joshuas easiest fight no concern there its just wilder thinks he is a big draw and thinks he can demand things that's the issue I have and I don't believe he really means it when he calls out Joshua think about it he wont even fight top 10 fighters but he will fight Joshua?

    Jousha would get him out in the early rounds
     
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  3. Gymbot

    Gymbot Active Member Full Member

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    If Wilder doesn't deserve it, who does?
     
  4. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    It doesnt matter if you like the A side B side thing. When one fighter can pull in 90k fans and the other doesnt do a 10th of that it becomes inevitable.
    We dont know what Wilder wants from the split but to say Hearn wont entertain it doesnt sound correct to me, as I heard a recording of Hearn on ESB today where he said nobody from Wilders team has even approached him and that he was saying Joshua was not worried.
    I can understand why Hearn is trying to get an opportunity for another of his fighters in Whyte. If Whyte were to win it would be a massive domestic unification rematch. Whyte would be one of Wilders biggest fights and Wilder is not entertaining that one.

    What you note here. Why doesnt the same thing apply to Wilder?
    You are comparing Wlad at that stage and after so many fights to Joshua who has had 20. Im surprised you are not applying that to Wilder on 39 fights.
    Do you feel Wilder should travel to his challengers from here on? I didnt get the impression that Wilder felt that way on his recent post fight interview (doesnt mean I am right or wrong, just didnt get the impression).
    Haye was the biggest fight for Wlad outside of Vitali at that time. Haye was a 2 weight champ, travelled to Wlad and had earned his opportunity by beating Valuev away, Ruiz who was arguably the most accomplished American HW at that time and was a PPV star. Wilder has not had a big win like that or become PPV as of this time
     
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    rapscalion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joshua does need him though if he wants to rule the division. Wilder has the other belt and is the other top guy. He will have to fight him to be solidified as the man. I don't know **** about the business side but dammit they better make it work sometime this year
     
  6. "TKO"

    "TKO" Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This thread is utterly ******ed.

    Joshua and Wilder are clearly numbers 1 and 2 at heavy right now. Any true fan of the sport should want to see this fight. Those who bang on about money or Wilder "having to earn" a fight with Joshua are simply fanboys/ haters with an agenda to push. And I'm more of a Joshua fan than Wilder, being a Brit.
     
  7. Outstock

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    When you look at Dillian Whyte, why do we have to go through a lower standard of fighter?” Wilder told The Breakfast Show.

    “Even when you look at some of the opposition that I have fought in the past what’s the difference between him and those opposition? Dillian Whyte is just a distraction between me and Joshua and everybody knows it. For that reason I am not interested in it. The only way we would be interested in it is if Joshua comes with it
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    Wilder saying all the right things here.
     
  8. marting

    marting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Not-deserving"? These are fighters not pop stars.
     
  9. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why didn't he fight them? Because of positive tests FFS... There are still rules and regs they follow.

    Now, didn't you say a whole back that ODLH still fought his opponents who were cheats?
     
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    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He can say this. But if he fights someone else, someone lesser than Whyte, before AJ, he looks like a fool.
     
  11. Outstock

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    Breazele is a harder fight.
     
  12. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wouldn't be opposed to this
     
  13. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Yes i did vargas was exposed juicing yet hoya still fought him and knocked him out
     
  14. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Knockout 38 of his 29 opponents.

    What did Takam or Molina do?
     
  15. yesihavearm2

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    Chris Byrd would look like a KO artist if he'd faced Wilder's level of opponents
     
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