Wilder doesnt deserve the Joshua payday what has he done to earn the fight?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Tyson Fury Goat, Nov 5, 2017.


  1. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    17,721
    6,113
    May 2, 2015
    I think Hearn won't entertain the idea because whenever he's asked about it, he says "he has to fight Whyte first". And he won't even guarentee that he'll make AJ/Wilder should Wilder beat Whyte. That's why he won't entertain the idea. He doesn't say "Wilder should take this split", or "he has to take this flat fee", he just says "he has to fight Whyte first, then we'll think about it".

    Yeah, It is understandable why Hearn wants the Wilder/Whyte fight, but It's also understandable why Wilder wants the AJ fight to be guarenteed should he beat Whyte. So yes, he is entertaining the idea, by saying that he'll only travel to fight Whyte if Hearn contractually guarentees him the AJ fight afterwards.

    I'm comparing AJ to Wlad because he's in the driver seat now, just like Wlad was when he was active. Wilder is in no position to bring any opponent he wants to his backyard, or to determine the splits.

    I definetly think Wilder should travel. Let them start the negotiations. If Wilder really demands the fight in US with 50/50 split, then I'll say he's the one who's blocking the fight. He said that he'd travel for the AJ fight, but we need to see two camps negotiate to know how much he meant it.

    I wasn't implying that Haye wasn't a worthy opponent, just pointing out that Wlad chased him as the champion and gave him the split he wanted to get the fight made.
     
    Outstock likes this.
  2. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    8,959
    2,031
    Apr 26, 2006
    That's why he got dropped by a LHWT?
     
  3. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

    4,937
    787
    Aug 17, 2015
    Yeah, let's give the fight to "legitimate" top heavyweights like Pulev with great recent outings like SD victories over the likes of Chisora. LMAO.

    Wilder's resume may be underwhelming but he's still one of the most accomplished fighters in the current heavyweight division next to Joshua and he has a belt on top of that. The ONLY one who deserves a shot at Joshua before Wilder is Povetkin and he's going the WBO route with Parker. So Joshua should shut the **** up, sign the contract and stop stalling the big matches, which the idiotic fans are helping him do, for some reason.
     
    Outstock likes this.
  4. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    5,111
    3,981
    May 3, 2017
    Pulev has the same record as Wilder given the same opposition...
     
  5. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    5,111
    3,981
    May 3, 2017
    Do you understand the concept of a mandatory?
     
  6. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    8,959
    2,031
    Apr 26, 2006
    I understand the concept of a drug test.
     
  7. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    5,111
    3,981
    May 3, 2017
    what on earth are you talking about?
     
  8. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    8,959
    2,031
    Apr 26, 2006
    Forget it, Big Chief.
     
  9. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    5,111
    3,981
    May 3, 2017
    I'll just take that as conformation you don't understand how a mandatory works.
     
  10. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    8,959
    2,031
    Apr 26, 2006
    And you, the concept of how a drug test works.
     
  11. splatter69

    splatter69 Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,727
    1,328
    Aug 4, 2007
    So stupid. One champ wants to fight another. Oh me oh my what a novel concept. Why not make the fight happen....you get another belt. WTF.
     
  12. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    5,111
    3,981
    May 3, 2017
    What relevance to drug tests does Takam have?

    You asked what Takam did to deserve a shot at AJ.....he became Mandatory.
     
  13. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    8,959
    2,031
    Apr 26, 2006
    Stiverne wasn't a mandatory?
     
  14. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    5,111
    3,981
    May 3, 2017
    Are you on drugs?

    You said "What did Takam or Molina do"....as in to suggest why did they deserve a shot at AJ but not Wilder.

    Takam was his Mandatory.

    What are you talking about Stiverne and drug tests for?
     
  15. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,720
    2,839
    Nov 14, 2016
    stiverne failed one before the aborted fight with povetkin.