Wilder doesnt deserve the Joshua payday what has he done to earn the fight?

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  1. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

    TheyDontBoxNoMore7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I’ve always called Wilder the HW version of GGG and this thread just shows how garbage this forum is.

    If 100k ppv buy extraordinaire-boring-no personality GGG deserves a 10 plus million dollar payday, then other b-side guys like Wilder do too. When you propel one guy up and give him excuses for getting money he doesn’t deserve, it immediately kills your argument if you then try to apply the opposite case for a guy you don’t like.

    In this particular matter, in Wilders defense, he can sell a fight. He has personality that can amplify buzz for a fight. AJ/Wilder will easily outsell Canelo/GGG by atleast 300k buys. Guarantee it. Wilder isn’t bringing entitlement to the table either like asking for a ridiculous sum of money. Dude just wants the fight.

    The only thing holding this fight back is Eddie Hearns cash cow maybe in jeopardy not necessarily from Wilder KOing him but from drug testing. There’s no reason for this fight not to get made, nor any reason for you hypocrites to knock it. Other than Fury, fighting Wilder gives AJ his second biggest payday option period.

    Just a little more fuel for the fire, a bunch of you are probably the same clowns that fought fervently for years that Manny derserved 50/50 in the Floyd fight. In all actuality money is not an issue for this fight. Wilder knows his place and isn’t being a diva at all about it. Just my two cents.
     
  2. slender4

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    Man, sometimes I forget the level of pure academic genius I am dealing with here.

    Takam was a mandatory, so Joshua fought him
    Wade was a mandatory for GGG, so GGG fought him
    Stiverne was a mandatory for Wilder so Wilder fought him.

    Is Molina a better fighter than Wilder, probably not since Wilder knocked him out, but Joshua fought Molina, therefor the question about "Wilder deserving a payday with Joshua is quite simply answered. He has twice as many fights a Joshua, he has twice as many title defenses as Joshua, and he knocked out a guy that Joshua fought, before Joshua did. Have a nice day.
     
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  3. greenhornet

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    wilder would be joshuas easiest fight huh? damn are you a moron. did joshua hire you as a press agent? or does your whole existence revolve around him? get a life.
     
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  4. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    wilder-joshua isn't coming anywhere near golovkin-alvarez in buys. mexican-americans drive ppv in the states and most either don't know either hw or don't give a ****.
     
  5. KingFury64

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    AJ should fight every guy that calls him? Does he fight them all in the same night? Also isn`t the Wilder camp dribbling something about a 50/50? Hearn is quite right to ignore Wilder for the time being. A fight with Parker would be a natural match up.
     
  6. Ty577

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    Wilder is a *****,but one point i agree with him though,is that Hearn should put a written agreement that if he beats Whyte,he gets Joshua without discussing Numbers just a Written Agreement.However i still believe Wilder has the ability to beat both Whyte and Joshua which is what Hearn is worrying about.However theirs a chance that Whyte manages to get a Out of the Blue shot like Molina did to him and he done to AJ that he could KO Wilder its intresting but it dosent feel right this fight happening in The Spring,it needs more suspense and build up,remember once this fight gets made their are no more intresting matchups.Wilder and AJ are keeping the HW Divison alive,imagine if Wilder wins then retires,imagine if AJ wins and just has to fight bums until someone new pops up.
     
  7. yesihavearm2

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    You know Wilder was also KO'd by a LHW right? lol
     
  8. LANCE99

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    And you think those two situations are the same? Vargas' steroid usage came to light AFTER the fight, not before. There's a major difference there you don't seem to, or want to, grasp.
     
  9. slender4

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    Not as a pro.
     
  10. lufcrazy

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    Not every fighter no, but the next best in the division, yes.

    Why is Parker a natural match up as opposed to Wilder?
     
  11. Guybino

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    That makes it even worse - headgear.
     
  12. Tyson Fury Goat

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    Regardless the main point here is wilder is fighting bums simple as that no one can argue this not even you
     
  13. LANCE99

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    Your main point? Then why would you even attempt to use ODLH as some example of Wilder should have done, when ODLH didn't even do that himself? We all know Wilders' level of comp. Is that going to be your go-to line or something?

    If you don't think Wilder deserves whatever purse he'll likely get, boycott the fight if it gets made.
     
  14. The Clan

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    Hearn has clearly said that if Wilder is realistic about his commercial value then the fight can happen in either March or in the summer.

    The problem will Be Wilders demands.

    Hearn said if they were to offer Wilder his commercial worth then Wilder would not take the fight, so both he and Joshua are prepared to pay above Wilders commercial value to get the deal but they won’t acquiesce to his unrealistic self valuation. They don’t want to disrespect Wilder in any way but they won’t have their leg lifted either.

    The alternative is for Wilders team to pull a counter offer together but they won’t because they can’t raise the money. Wilder doesn’t have the profile or commercial pull to get the TV companies to front it at the value required. Then there’s the venue, this is a stadium event and once again Wilder doesn’t have the financial strength to offer the required guarantees. Finally there’s the Country, Wilder is talking the USA up as the “Mecca” of boxing but he can’t raise enough interest to guarantee ticket sales etc.

    If Shelly Finkel, Lou DiBella and Deontay Wilder really want the fight with Anthony Joshua then they’re going to have to be realistic in their demands. If they won’t do that then there’ll be no fight and I suspect it’s because they didn’t really want it.
     
  15. lufcrazy

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    There is no offer from Hearn though. Just vague statements about fighting next summer.