Lennox Lewis vs Joe Frazier

Go back to ogling muscle bound hunks, I think that's more your topic. I don't think you are quite qualified yet to comment on all time great champions of an earlier vintage. You don't seem to know enough about any champion before your own era.

 

Of course Lewis was taller than Bruno, I did not say he wasn't.

What I was saying was Bugner was also taller than Bruno. And that both Lewis and Bugner did not appear to make Bruno look any shorter in relation to them. As in Lewis and Bugner seemed to be equally taller than Bruno.

But Bugner is from too far ago for you to have any real grasp..since it is outside of the steroid era that you are more interested in. Tut tut

 

Not at all. I merely voiced my opinion having watched boxing for 40+ years and l stand by my comments. It wasn't meant to insult anyone but having watched Lewis over a number of years very few fights could beat a prime Lewis and Frazier isn't on the list.

 

Sh*t I forgot that because you claim to watch boxing for 40+ years you're an authority on the subject and that just because you say Frazier isn't on your made up list of fighters who beat Lewis then that means its law.

Let me guess. Millennial are lazy, America used to be so much better, Obama was a terrible president and you hate political correctness?

 

Not at all. I liked Obama and l think the Millennials have had a hard go of it, especially where l live as the median home price is upwards of a million dollars. So no, l thought about my conclusion based on several factors. The size discrepancy, the skill level, how Lewis performed against Tua, Tyson and other smaller fighters. How how he blew out Ruddock, Golota, Grant and Rahman. How he went to war with Vitali Klitschko and won, and the fact that Ali was never the same fighter after that prolonged layoff. I've factored in all of this and arrived at my opinion accordingly. If I wanted it l could also factor in Frazier's performances against Foreman. They essentially all point to one outcome.

 

LOL, you are a Lib......

 

LOL, you are a LIB.....

 

LOL. Tourette's is not a laughing matter. I apologize.

 

You really don't want to get in this argument with me.

Lol.

 

Good post.

 

Irrelevant to his opinion.

 

No ,specifically I was replying to an earlier quote but yes, if you cannot grasp that, you ARE STUPID happy now?

 

yes and they only seem to be to do with Lewis don't they.

this is to do with Lewis being big. Lewis was great at using his size so long as he was given enough composure. He needed to control pace. The intensity of Frazier would be extremely unsettling and he would lose the necessary composure to implement the size strategy.

again you think a skill factor is only to do only with Lewis. Frazier was extremely skilful.

how Lewis fared with slower Tua, old Tyson really isn't a fare comparison to the Frazier Ali fought is it? I notice no remark on how Lewis fared with Justin Fortune and Lionel Butler was not included in this summary. Lewis won those fight too but he needed rounds to come to terms with inferior fighters that rushed him. Frazier would be hurting Lewis whilst he is coming to terms with the pace.

how Lewis fared with Ruddock, Golota and Grant is one thing. How he fared with Rahman is another. Rahman took two attempts. And let's not forget Ruddock, grant and Golota were tall upright guys. Powerhouse types that Lewis could control and chop down. Much more suited to Lewis than Frazier was.

well this vitali fight showed that Lewis had heart and could trade in a physical fight with a guy taller than he was. But it was not Fraziers tempo.

Ali had stopped two top contenders. He stopped Quarry in two rounds and stopped Bonavena in the 15th round. On paper those results are as good as any of Alis 1960s reign. Against the same foes he improved on Frazier. Both those results look better on paper than the Terrell win on points or taking Mildenburger into the 12th round. Ali had modified his style but those results were fantastic under the circumstances. Against Frazier he came out smoking and against any other fighter Ali might have looked as good as ever. He was really scoring hard shots and moving faster initially than he had in the previous comeback fights. Lennox Lewis would have lost to both Frazier and Ali of that fight. It was a level above anything Lewis did. It really was The Fight Of The Century

yes but it's one sided isn't it.

well at least you accept the Foreman loss is a cheap shot baring no relation to the very small window where Frazier was a truly great fighter.

they point to the outcome so long as the Frazier stuff is ignored.

 

Frazier was limited to fighting one way . Lewis was not. How many rounds did Fortune and Butler win against Lewis?
How many rounds did a blubbery punch-less Mathis win against Frazier?

 

I wasn't trying to say anything to change his opinion.