1991 foreman vs Marciano

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1991 foreman vs Marciano

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  1. janitor

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    Easy.

    Height fluctuates by an inch or more, over the course of a day, and it is frequently exaggerated, for publicity purposes.

    In addition, there is no standardized method of measurement.

    In terms of weight, a fighter can weight in fully dressed, or drink a gallon of water to make weight.

    If we go back further, weights were taken on trust, in heavyweight fights.
     
  2. JohnThomas1

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    So what you are saying is there's every chance the size difference betweenLouis compared to Foreman and Norton may have been larger than stated.
     
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  3. janitor

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    Indeed, but if you see them side by side, that is a bit of a clue.

    It tells you whether one of them is going to tower over the other.

    You can compare it to the photos of Joe Louis standing next to Primo Carnera.
     
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  4. mcvey

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    So Louis was measured at the time of day when he was shorter? And conversely Foreman and Norton were measured at the time of day when they were at their tallest?
    Can you enlighten us as to what these respective times would be?
    Would you say that Louis would be a reliable and accurate judge of his true height.irrespective of the time of day? I ask because he specifically states in his autobiography that he was six feet and one and a half inches tall.
    No standardized method of measurement?
    I thought a tape measure was the standardized method of measuring a boxer,is this not the case?
    I'd also like to clear up another part of your post.
    Are you specifically stating that Louis did not weigh in on commission scales for his fights?
    That the Commission took his weight on trust?
    If so, then all the photos we have of Louis in shorts standing on scales being weighed in the presence of Commission officials must be faked surely?
     
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  5. mcvey

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    Have you ever seen Louis standing side by side with either Norton , Foreman or both with all of the participants wearing boxing shoes?
     
  6. JohnThomas1

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    An inch and a half of weight is not going to see someone towering over someone tho.

    Height is just one of the measurements in discussion.
     
  7. KuRuPT

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    I love this theory, that a fighter is going to convincingly win, going towards a guy with a ramrod jab, cross and uppercut with big power; who also cuts easily, and this would work? lol. Could it work, I guess, maybe it's Marciano, but I wouldn't count on it.
     
  8. Glass City Cobra

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    Not literally too short to reach it but it would be pretty difficult to land flush when a man outweighing rocky by 70 lbs and an 11' reach advantage keep shoving him back, throwing telephone pole jabs, or sladgehammer uppercuts whenever he gets close.
     
  9. PernellSweetPea

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    I cannot see this as a competitive fight. He might trouble Foreman in 1988, but in 1991 George was sharper and eventually would land something huge and stop Marciano. who was a small heavyweight. I even pick Spinks to beat Marciano.
     
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  10. Mr.DagoWop

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    Old Foreman was just too damn slow and very easy to hit. Marciano adjusted his style to fit his reach disadvantage and made his height work for him. I don't think he would have any problem getting past the jab.

    Marcianos best punch is the overhand right. That's incredibly deadly against a tall fella like Foreman. Mix that with terrible defense and that spells a knockout. At the very least Marciano would force him into a shell.
     
  11. mcvey

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    Old George was slow and easy to hit but the punches didn't seem to bother him too much.I don't see Marciano stopping him and I can't see him winning by dec either. Geroge has the power to stop Rocky though. When this match was first mooted I initially thought Rocky would be too volatile for the older Foreman ,and it is with some surprise that I find myself picking George in either era!
     
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  12. Mr.DagoWop

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    Old Foreman didn't fight any punchers like Marciano. He had a great chin but didn't fight anyone with the work rate, style, and power combination that Marciano presented.
     
  13. mcvey

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    Maybe none with the work rate
    He fought punchers like Briggs,Morrison,Cooney, Moorer , dont tell me they couldn't hit.
    Who did Marciano fight who was 6'3" 250lbs and could hit like a truck?
     
  14. Wass1985

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    A tape measure is a terrible tool to measure height, the best apparatus is a stadiometer. Last i knew this is the universal measuring gauge for a person's height.
     
  15. Mr.DagoWop

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    The workrate is what seperates Marciano from just another puncher lol

    The weight doesn't matter. He fought plenty of tall boys.