Would Wilder of got to his feet from the same shot that knocked down joshua? against Wlad

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  1. MVC!

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    He landed several big ones dude LOL, go rewatch it.

    Sure he does, everyone does.

    But the fact remains, he is still one of the best hw's in the game. No one can dispute that.
     
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  2. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Stiverne couldn't knock out ray Austin and got stopped by him.

    wilder got rocked by Molina badly

    He has major flaws his chin and skills.

    I was impartial towards wilder its just him fighting bums after bums has turned me of I mean why can't he take more challenging fights?
     
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    He knocked out Ray Austin, I think you're talking about Demetrius King.
     
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    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    yes that's the one im talking about but even with ray he was struggling before he knocked him out right?
     
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  5. MVC!

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    Austin's decent.
     
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  6. Tyson Fury Goat

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    What do you honestly feel about Wilder level of competition after having 40 fights?
     
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  7. MVC!

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    Mediocre, below avg. It's all about objectivity with me.

    I agree his competition hasn't been very good but you can't deny HW has been a very crappy division for the last 15 years, not many big names, almost none.
     
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    Once Wilder does the chicken dance his pencil legs won't recover. He'd fall all over the place like a drunken sailor.
     
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  9. Tyson Fury Goat

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    I agree about the HW division not being good but if you take takam for example and look at his resume he clearly has fought better comp then wilder so its not that rubbish

    The harder tough fights are there but wilder or his management don't want to put him in with decent guys
     
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  10. MVC!

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    Oh and you can't deny the fact that Wilder has tried to make big fights and it was always his opponents fault that it was never made (Povetkin, Ortiz).

    Can you agree or are you going to be biased again?!
     
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  11. latineg

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    Well dont forget this when considering why he doesnt deserve 50/50 mr all about Objectivity.

    See how that works brother?
     
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  12. Tyson Fury Goat

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    You know me I say it how it is.

    Sure he tried to appear to make those fights but I still would of liked him to go through with the fights I mean povektin was cleared and the amount he took was allowed it was even less its when he was going to fight stiverne he got banned.

    Ortiz is the same wilder still could of fought him it was not ban worthy if you really look into it

    Even if I say yes he wanted those fights they still never happened I just want to watch him in a tough fight that's all.
     
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    No it wasn't appear, he did make those fights, the contracts were signed! And you are fair to want him in a tough fight, but there's no possible way you can pin those mistakes on Wilder. The sanctioning bodies would not sanction it, what did you want him to do?

    I want him in a big fight too, but it's just BS how whenever those fights get made, his opponents pop for illegal drugs. It's just a shame.
     
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    Johnny Nelson begins talking about exactly that; beginning at 10:45
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    Even if the sanctioning bodies don't sanction it he still could of fought him without the title being on the line, povetkin said he wouldn't mind still fighting without the title being on the line.

    Also wilder can still fight povetkin and Ortiz anytime he wants its not like he is not allowed to fight them now.

    I agree its a shame but I think there really is more to it I mean how come its every big fight?
     
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