Maricano v. Tyson's opponents?

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    How does Rocky Marciano (the version that actually existed, not some steroid-enhanced altered beast) fare against Tyson's opponents? Would he clean out the division two or three years into his professional career? Beat Tokyo Douglas 6 years in? Holyfield 11-12 years? Lennox after 17 years?
     
  2. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    I think Rocky would beat some of them with his relentless pressure, determination and power. Some of the really tall heavyweights that had 40lbs on him would beat him imo
     
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  3. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    This thread makes no sense. Why does Marciano have to fight Tyson's schedule when Tyson fought them? The only match up that would make sense is to fight them proportionately to the timeline of his own career. In that case I think Marciano would pick up a loss or two until he got to Ruddock, proportionately. Then he beats everyone save Lewis.

    It's like acting like you're making a point by saying that Tyson couldn't do as well against Marciano as Walcott did, almost 22 years into his career.
     
  4. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Ok but what would you do, cram Tyson's career from 1986-2002 into the 4 or 5 years when Marciano fought ranked opponents?
     
  5. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Weird thread. You are asking the real Marciano be considered.

    But then you ask a Marciano in his late 30s and early 40s be considered, some 12 or 17 years into a fantasy career.

    Marciano didnt fight a pro fight until he was 25. He fought his last bout at 32. He was really only an active fighter for 6 years.

    Are we gonna match dead 45 year old Rocky against Danny Williams too? Yeah, the Rock might lose that one. Great thread.
     
  6. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not even the Marciano forum fanatics would put a single cent on the books for Marciano beating Tyson.......that is a border line mismatch
     
  7. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    I feel like he'd do significantly better than Tyson. I can't for the life of me see Douglas beating Marciano.
     
  8. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    No, I would be proportionate. If it was a guy Tyson fought 50% into his career then I would put a version of Marciano that was 50% into his career.

    Either way Marciano comes out with losses. Marciano wasn't quite ready for a title shot until around the Rex Layne fight. Even then, his real progression into a really great fighter wasn't complete until the Charles and Moore fights.
     
  9. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The one that actually existed wouldn't even get in the ring with them as he wouldn't be a HW.
     
  10. heizenberg

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    I don't think Marciano would've been able to replicate Tyson's reign. All of Tyson's opponents he faced and for the most part beat rather easily would've been much tougher test for the smaller Marciano.
     
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  11. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Are you matching baseball Marciano who had yet to seriously box in his life against Berbick and the like? Yeah, he might lose.
     
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  12. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    No, I'm pitting a proportional version of Marciano in against Tyson's opposition. What did I say that made you think I was?
     
  13. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Just confused by proportionate, because Tyson's career was so long in contrast. Its just a hard thing to consider. A 6 year career against a 20 year one.

    I think Marciano probably goes 85 to 91 undefeated. Tyson stepped up against Berbick around same time Marciano stepped up against Vingo. Without Vingo tragedy, Marciano might progress faster.
     
  14. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Many scientists speculate that there exist an infinite number of universes, each with an alternate version of reality. So if that's correct, then there is a steroid enhanced Marciano in some alternate universe. There's also a universe in which MrKoolkevin is President of the United States and a universe where I stopped prime Tyson by KO in 1 round.
     
  15. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    All Williams has to do is manage to kick Rocky's corpse out of the ring by the end of the round. If not, Williams loses.