Eddie Hearn confirms Wilder did ask for "50/50" split.

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  1. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    A unification bout should always see an opponent get more than a mandatory defence split IMO and I'm one of Wilder's biggest critics on here.

    Hearn has admitted he'll need to overpay Wilder to make the fight happen so for me a 65/35 split looks to be about right with that landing Deontay a massive amount of cash. As for location - the UK gate will be huge so unless DiBella can find a US venue willing to stump up the cash to match that then the fight will pretty much have to go down in Britain.
     
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  2. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Here Hearns mocks Deontay and highlights the fight will never happen at 50-50. In a related interview he mocks the fact no one in the USA knows who Deontay is, and he no proper promoter, hence the fact its never going to be a 50-50 split or close to it.

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  3. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Deontay was offered deals and it sheds a light on how Deontay's brain works. He was offered $3 million plus 100% of US TV income for a fight against Whyte. That's 250% of what Deontay makes in his fights in the US. Good business for Deontay one would think! Deontays reply? "Nope, I want $7 million". BAHAHAHAH They asked Hearn where he thinks Deontay got the $7 million from, Hearns says he has no idea, they just pulled it from thin air.

    That's how Deontay operates. Completely disconnected from reality.
     
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  4. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    It's been pretty obvious from the beginning that Wilder is just using Joshua's name for publicity.

    Wilder has every intention to continue fighting the Washingtons, Stivernes, Molinas and (maybe) Breazeales .... he just wants to get some big ballyhoo behind him so he can get paid more for knocking over bums, and what better way than to market himself as "The Man Anthony Joshua is Ducking".

    9 year career. 39 fights. 39 bums and second-raters.
    6 straight "world titles" defences, NONE of them against a GENUINE top 10 fighter (except in the strange world of WBC's ratings)

    Records like that don't happen by accident.
     
  5. Outstock

    Outstock PBR Full Member

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    This jus backs up my point even further. Hearn has a good deal on offer for White, but when it comes to Joshua he has nothing. He reacts to that fight in a negative manner.
     
  6. Outstock

    Outstock PBR Full Member

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    No evidence to suggest it. Not until he receives a good offer and turns it down
     
  7. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    The fact that Wilder's been running around saying "Hearn and Joshua are ducking me !" absolutely demonstrates how he is using Joshua's name for publicity.
     
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  8. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    But if wilder is asking for unrealistic numbers for whyte why would hearn even bother negotiating? hearn has talked with their team but clearly they are nowhere near in terms of numbers. He probably knows any realistic offer will be rejected and he clearly would prefer the fight to happen later when there is a better chance he can offer wilder something close to the stupid numbers he is demanding.
     
  9. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    You're looking at it backwards. Hearn's job isn't to go around making Deontay Wilder offers.

    Hearn is Whyte's promoter.
    He is also Joshua's promoter.
    Hearn can put Joshua in with anyone and make huge money.
    Hearn offered Wilder money to fight Whyte for Whyte's sake, not Wilder's.

    Hearn isn't working for Deontay Wilder.
     
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  10. Gymbot

    Gymbot Active Member Full Member

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    These fighters need to look beyond the end of their nose. If Wilder beats Joshua, then he will be The Man and will get to dictate terms. He needs to put his ego to one side and look at the bigger picture. If he gets too caught up in what %age split he gets, then to me that just says he isn't confident of winning.
     
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  11. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Did you see Hearn's interview about meeting Wilder's handlers in New York? Does sound like someone who isn't interested in getting a deal done with Wilder.
     
  12. LitoCandela

    LitoCandela Active Member Full Member

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    Clearly you guys dont know how to negotiate. Wilder is looking for the big money. You have to go big first. Plus he is the one that will probably have to leave the states for the fight. I personally think 40/60 is good. AJ taking the bigger cut.
     
  13. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    You obviously start negotiations by asking for more than you expect in the hope you get a higher return offer. But the position that Wilder is in, isn't one where he can make any king of outlandish demands like a 50/50 split.

    Fact is Hearn believes the Joshua/Wilder fight could be bigger and would prefer to delay the fight to allow the fight to build, he hasn't hid this fact, it's been know for a while. He wants Joshua and Wilder's profiles to be built up in the mean time in the US. He would also prefer if Joshua/Wilder were not just a unification fight but a fight for the undisputed title, hence why he has approached Parker. We can all agree a fight for all the belts in bigger than just a unification fight.

    So currently Wilder wants the fight supposedly now, while Hearn is content to wait a while. So Wilder now asking for 50/50 isn't really a good idea, because he's trying to convince Hearn to make the fight now instead of next year. Wilder isn't in a position to really bargain because he's the one demanding the fight be now and not on Hearn's schedule but expects to not have to make concessions to get Hearn to change his plans.

    Hearn: We'll fight next year

    Wilder: No we fight now!

    Hearn: OK let's do a deal, what concessions will you make to get me to change my mind and fight on your schedule instead of mine?

    Wilder: I'll agree to go as low as 50/50

    Hearn: Click, hangs up phone, goes back to negotiating with people who are serious about fighting Joshua
     
  14. liger1992

    liger1992 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This
     
  15. Outstock

    Outstock PBR Full Member

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    No , that's literally what his job is.