Boxers never cease to amaze me with their idiotic training methods

He also only had 2 sparring sessions. Something to do with his elbow.

 

I doubt the reason he lacked pop was due to stopping lifting weights.
More likely explanation: he's just a bit crap.

 

Lifting weights like that don't actually add to your punching power.

 

Disagree aswell

 

That's not necessarily true.
It depends how effective the whole training programme is to begin with.
A boxer might have a crap programme for boxing but he can bench press 450 pounds.
A better programme might result in him punching harder (among other things) while seeing his bench press drop to 400 pounds.
For example.

 

It is quite amazing how poorly trained some fighters are. Too many fighters get stuck with old and out dated training methods. There was a time when traditional boxing training was regarded as some of the hardest and most effective training methods available, but other sports improved over time in regards to their method while boxing got stuck in tradition and disregarded the latest more effective methods and so other sports in general have surpassed boxing in this regard.

I recall watching a clip of Robert Guerrero training for a fight and he was using a strength conditioning coach for the first time and it was clear he was in very poor condition for a professional athlete, he couldn't even hold an L-sit for very long.

Also watching Charles Martin train for the Joshua fight was embarrassing. He was in horrible shape, he was groaning for exercises I've seen women in pilates classes do and they wouldn't make a sound or show any real discomfort.

 

I don't think the blame for Jarrell Miller's shortcomings can be put on "traditional methods".
He's 280 to 300 pounds of slow moving bulk.
He doesn't look like a traditional old school heavyweight, ala Joe Louis or Muhammad Ali.

I doubt he runs 7 miles cross country every morning then skips rope for 30 minutes.

It's almost certainly the individuals at fault, not "tradition".

 

Id really be interested in Miller's runs.

I doubt he runs, probably at a 10 minute a mile from pace lol.

 

Exactly.
I doubt he's doing the Rocky Balboa up the museum steps every morning.
Probably gets up for the 5 raw eggs then goes back to sleep.

 

Watched something on YouTube the other day think it was Ellie secback or whatever his name is...with is it Robert Garcia the guy that trains Mikey Garcia. Anyway had two strength lifters in the gym...think they we,re number 2 and number 7 in the world for there weight class at lifting cars or something like that. Big Mexican dudes.

Anyway one of the guys was explaining to Robert a bit about how his training would help the boxers. Was surprised Garcia didn't,t really have much of a clue about it all considering how Mikey Garcia's a top fighter. The guy was telling him that its a myth that weights slow you down. Said it would be easy to get the guys a lot stronger without making them bigger...and basically keeping the speed by lifting the weights explosively. Garcia was using an old arm resistance machine thing to help his fighters with the strength. But he wasnt even sure himself if it was any good. The guy was telling him it was all about compound moves. Small reps lifting fast would build the strength but keep them in the same weight class etc.

Garcia actually impressed me with how much he was willing to listen and learn but just thought they,d have that side of things down by now. Hard to criticise tho cause Mikey Garcia's class.

But was pretty interesting viewing anyway...if you get the chance cutthroat worth a watch...probably be down your street mate.

The biggest Mexican went on the pads...your thinking he,d be too bulky for it. But he was defo explosive. Tired pretty quickly tho but tbf was off season. Still a questionmark over weather them big muscles need too much oxygen. Maybe the guys that are still stuck in the traditional ways aren,t quite as stupid as we all think. Otherwise they,d all be doing it by now. But who knows for sure.

 

Can you share the link. Big muscles do get tired fast because they require more oxygen. Im a very lean 220lb, I basically look like a linebacker in his prime, but that doesn't really matter for me because I only fight 3 rounds at a time. Also, since I started boxing 3 years ago, my strength for weighttraining has nose dived. However, I am almost positive I throw the hardest punches in the DC metro area and have the quickest jab despite being 38. That said I'm still green, so landing these hard shots and finding my range is something i constantly have to work on. Izu Ugonoh look very sharp against Breazeale during the early rounds, but bro just gassed out. Blame it on his muscles, blame on his inexperience...idk. He was a kickboxer though and that's the only other combat sport i think is more challenging than boxing.

 

Punching power is weird though. I've personally known guys who were absolute monsters on the weights, muscular as hell for their weight classes, and seemed to put their whole body into their punches ..... they had the explosive strength, they had the "technique" ..... yet they had average or less punching power in the actual ring. I'm talking about professional boxers.