Anthony Joshua vs. Prime Evander Holyfield

I disagree with being less skilled than Joshua or more dangerous. Joshua is very much like Wald in his style. It’s very measured and methodical. He uses his height and reach well. But nowhere near as fluid as Bowe was in his prime. Bowe let his combination go which was risky but also presented big risks for his opponents. Tubbs and Takam are similar in ways but Tony in my opinion was a better boxer than Takam. Joshua struggled but he beat Takam clearly. No criticism from me....he had to deal with a broken nose early on so I believe that hindered his performance a bit. Ultimately Joshua did what he had to do and it was a good win.

 

I'd agree about Bowe's infighting, he's the best infighting super heavy we've ever seen. I don't see what you see in regards to Bowe's hand speed. His combinations were pretty quick as he was so heavily planted with his feet when he swung away but single shot speed he was slower than Lewis and Wlad. His right hand was horribly arced, Wlad's is so much straighter and faster.

Foot speed is where Bowe really sucked. You saw it in the Olympics vs Lewis, once Lewis decided to move in quickly, Bowe couldn't react in time or get out of the way and was a sitting duck. Holyfield in the second fight,Tubbs even Hide used movement to befuddle him at times.

 

It could be argued either way. If I had to choose between Holyfields and Bowe to take to fight Joshua I would probably take Holyfields if he can get to a solid 215.

 

I see the comparisons with Wlad but I also think he has a little of Bowe in him too. Like Bowe he's slow footed or at least doesn't move his feet anywhere near enough. Joshua like Bowe is pretty adept on the inside for a big man, partly because like Bowe his feet are so planted, allows him to let both hands go more easily. Though Bowe was clearly more fluid.

I will add I think Joshua is better defensively, but then again Bowe's defence was his offence, he got hit way too much.

 

Joshua is not like Wlad BC he doesn't need the jab to set everything up and prefers close quarters and combination punching,totally opposite.

The rest of my posts sums up why I can't possibly agree with you. Joshua is as dangerous as I've seen since prime M.Tyson.

I've only seen one other at first glimpse ( like i did Joshua) that's going to be in the same category and your going to know who that is real soon, I say a years time.

 

Tubbs was not better than Takam at least not in the 90s.

 

The only difference between Joshua a Wald in terms of style is he’s more committed to going to the body than Wald, but he uses the jab and straight right as the foundation of his offense, like Wald. He’s not a fluid combination puncher. He will put together a 3 punch combo but it’s not very consistent. I don’t see AJ as dangerous as a prime Mike Tyson. He’s nowhere near as explosive or fast. He’s powerful but most of that is based on his size, strength and technique. I do think he’s the future of the of the heavyweight division. I think he will beat Wilder and Parker, unify and hold the division for ransom. He’s young and still improving but I don’t think he’s on par with the previous dominant heavyweights like Holyfield, Tyson or Wald during their hay day.

 

Disagree. Tubbs was a very good boxer. Limited by natural ability, in speed, reflexes and athleticism but his skills were much better than Takam

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Tubbs was known for his speed and reflex's.

You can claim Tubbs in the 90's was better after drug addiction and weight issues but we know that is false.

I think Takam would give prime Tubbs fits ,a non power puncher would be in a legit fight against his style as would against Tubbs.
Takam takes a better punch by far.

 

Joshua is very good defensively. He uses his reach and height the way a taller heavyweight is supposed to. That’s where I think Bowe had liabilities. He liked infighting and was really good at it but it was a disadvantage against shorter, stockier opponents. Bowe had balance issues a bit, not very fluid with his footwork but he always got great leverage on his power punches which sometimes got him off balanced when he missed. I think Bowe would have a tough time with Joshua like he would have with Lewis. But if Bowe was successful in closing the gap it’s a big problem for Joshua.

 

Tyson's was fighting Steve Zouski in 19 fights and won his belt in 28 fights.His resume is no where near Joshua's and a Klitchko win solidifies Joshua indeed a top head to head fighter one Tyson never encountered at 6'6 240 plus who could punch and not worry about keeping him outside a jab BC he can fight at close quarters.

NO 6'3 plus guy had that ability to stop Tyson.

 

He wasn’t slow and he used his reflexes as a big part of his defense. Leaning back to evade punches and counter but he wasn’t fast or quick enough to make that tactic as effective as really fast heavyweights like Ali. That’s why he got caught more than he should have at the end of his opponents punches. I think Tubbs and Takam are similar and you could be right...Takam could have given Tubbs fits, but I believe Tubbs would have beaten Takam. The power would be a big factor in how the fight would unfold

 

Notice the difference here. Bowe as a smaller man than joshua fought and beat smaller men than joshua is doing.

 

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