The Vasyl Lomachenko vs Guillermo Rigondeaux prediction thread

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Vasyl Lomachenko or Guillermo Rigondeaux ?

Poll closed Dec 9, 2017.
  1. Vasyl Lomachenko

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  2. Guillermo Rigondeaux

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  1. JohnnyDrama99

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  2. JohnnyDrama99

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    Nonito and Walters are very close in height. Walters is slightly taller.

    https://commdiginews-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Donaire-Walters-HBO1.jpg

    Nonito was definitely taller than Rig, but if you look at the shoulders, they are level...Nonito just has a much bigger dome.

    http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2013/0414/box_rigondeaux_01.jpg
     
  3. Tettsuo

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    Based on how Rigo uses his jab and lead hand, I don't see how Loma gets in without leaping. If he does leap, Rigo will counter him.

    So, it'll depend on how Loma tries to get pass that lead hand of Rigo. Personally, I don't see how he can do it with his shorter reach. He can't out-jab Rigo and he can't leap in. He'll have to change it all up and bull his way past that lead hand and I don't see it happening.

    Late TKO, Rigo wins.
     
  4. JohnnyDrama99

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    If Loma was a less versatile boxer I’d agree....but Loma rarely comes in to attack in a straight line. He’s using angles to mount his offense. If the inactivity hasn’t affected Rig’s timing and he isn’t hindered by ring rust, it will be difficult for Loma to land some of his punches early on. If Rig is affected and he’s not pinpoint accurate he’s going to pay dearly with the work rate and accuracy Loma is known for
     
  5. Paranoid Android

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    I saw Manny Pacquiao at the Pacquiao-Bradley II press conference in Manhattan. Pacquiao's no taller than 5' 4". He was scary small.
     
  6. Mr Logic

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    When do you ever see Loma leap in? Watch the mans footwork. Easy nights work for Loma
     
  7. Tettsuo

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    That's exactly my point. I don't see how he can get in against Rigo without leaping or bulling in.
     
  8. Tettsuo

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    Rigo isn't simply going to allow Loma to do what he wants, specifically because of how Rigo uses his jab and lead hand. And, Rigo's footwork is just as educated as Loma, just not as athletic or entertaining.

    I'd lean towards Loma if he's reach wasn't 3" shorter than Rigo's, giving Rigo a big edge if both are looking to outbox the other. Not to mention Rigo has better one-hit power than Loma. Loma IMO only has height strength as his only advantages. Neither of which are big factors in how Loma fights.
     
  9. JohnnyDrama99

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    Of course not. Rig is going to be laying traps and attempting to run Loma into his counters as much as possible. The problem is Rig’s inactivity. I wouldn’t be surprised if Rig’s timing is a bit off due to ring rust. For Rig, his style relies heavily on his timing.

    He’s not super fast, but he is very precise and that comes from having great timing. In order to stay sharp and keep the timing calibrated, boxers need to be active. Loma’s speed and pressure will be a major problem if Rig’s accuracy is off.

    Rig will need to give Loma something to think about, to keep him honest...Landing sharp, accurate counter punches would do that so hopefully Rig isn’t hindered too much by his inactivity.
     
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  10. JohnnyDrama99

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    Loma isn’t a straight up and down kind of fighter. He will shift, Pivot and come in at angles which will make the jab and straight, harder for Rig to negotiate. He’s going to have to anticipate where Loma will be if he’s not coming straight in....if Rig is even a half inch off, his counters won’t be effective and risks being hit by Loma’s offense
     
  11. JacK Rauber

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    Size and age. Lomachenko wins because he is 29 and bigger naturally. If Rigo were younger (he is 37) and bigger he would have a better shot. Rigo does have the reach, but so did Walters by 7 1/2"! So reach should not be a factor.

    Rigo is very talented but I actually think this will be a fairly easy win for Loma.
     
  12. MetalLicker

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    Lomachenko by left hook.

    Rigo is fighting another southpaw. He doesn't have the advantage like he normally does. He'll be more squared up and he'll be easier to hit and Lomachenko is going to punish that weak-chinned Cuban. The first clean shot Lomachenko lands, Rigo is going to be in trouble.
     
  13. JohnnyDrama99

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    Do you mean right hook?
     
  14. The Akbar One

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    I don't disagree that Rigs gasn't seemed as sharp as he was against Donaire. You should know better than to cite compubox though. Compubox is trash, and highly innacurate much of the time.
     
  15. JohnnyDrama99

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    I agree....compu box isn't a viable resource to use for validating how fights are scored....but this particular article had some merit. It showed ratings for the top boxers in the sport which had Floyd as #1 based on his accuracy offensively and his elusiveness defensively. Rig was rated #1 defensively, which is accurate and I didn't need compu box to tell me that. Loma offensively, rated #1 based on work rate and connect percentage, which I thought would be the case but wasn't completely sure. It's not a science because of human error but it's another metric to look at to get another perspective on the boxers at the in the sport