The thing about Anthony Joshua is that's he just not that good

Wlad was 'prime' when Sanders beat him?

If that's the case Joshua would have stopped a prime Wlad in about 4 rounds.

 

I don' see anyone better.

 

I forgot to edit my comment completely, thanks for pointing that out doctor strange.

 

I do.

 

Foh lmao. He's the laughing stock in boxing right now. A stiff ass soft scared ass bigot.

 

Account hacked by space aliens, Blizz. Didn't you hear?

 

Yeah I did an AJ's technically weak thread too. Ain't no one want to talk about technique, they like semantics. AJ's gold medal has been mentioned....that means he's technically gifted. No one ever got a gold medal at the olympics without being good. I mean sure, my list of champs lists a few but they're ancient and **** has changed hasn't it?

When an exchange is initiated AJ loses sense of posture causing him to fall out of position which makes him *******ize his punch structure which causes him to minimize the power he transfers and that forces him to put in more effort than he should have to per punch and that's why he tires faster than he should and all his KOs since Martin are all Technical Knockout not true KOs.

A gold medal doesn't change that deficit.

I see Wlad's being defended yet again. Unreasonable story is it? Well then, if Wladster was worth a damn go ahead and name me what he did worth a ****. 1-2 on the track grab em up if he gets close amatuer ****? His impressive resume? dude's got ****in' nothin' but longevity. How far can you take that ****? You can't argue for his resume, you can't argue for his technical abilities, but yeah Wlad was something more than Queen **** of the shittest era since 686

Huggiest champion of all time since 686. Most avoiding champion of all time since 686. Only champion in the full 3k year history of boxing to punch himself in the face and be such **** he loses to another what punched himself in the face. Wlad was such a ***** he makes Hart look like he was taking on challenges.

Dude's got one anecdote that's impressive in a detail-less vacuum in the modern gloved boxing era and three that are impressively **** for the whole of boxing history and just gets worse the more details you bring into it.

Nothing made me happier than seeing Fury beat Wlad with minimal effort. All it took was turning the track and Wlad was beat...whoa neely that's some ****in' technical prowess that.

 

Who?

 

Sure there is...someone who incorporates heavy weights to “bulk” up in terms of muscle mass will be heavier and have less dexterity than someone who chooses to add “lean” or “tone” muscle mass by doing aerobic, plyometric or isometric exercises. Look at swimmers and cyclists. They use lower weights or no weights at all for muscular development and their bodies have very little body fat.

Lean or tone muscles aren’t what you’d see from guys into bodybuilding or power lifting...those guys have “bulky” muscles. Joshua isn’t a bodybuilder but his physique and muscular development indicates he incorporates a lot of heavy weights into his training. He’s added a bunch of muscle mass since he’s turned pro.

 

Oh my the amount of Broscience in this post is astronomical, lmao.

You can lift all the weights in the world, that alone won't make you heavier or bulkier, weight is determined by how much you eat, how much of what you gain in weight is muscle or fat will be determined by any resistance training you do and quality of diet.

Lean muscle as you put it doesn't exist. Someone may have less muscle and look leaner and if they have a lower bodyfat percentage look more toned but the muscles they have made are really no different than a guy who has bulked up.

If you actually watch Joshua training the only traditional weightlifting type exercises he does are hexbar deadlifts and squats and even then he goes relatively light for a guy his size and uses bands to help with power and explosiveness. Most of what you see him do is plyo, agility drills etc.

Though I agree he's added to much muscle since he turned pro, but that muscle is no different than a leaner persons he just has more of it.

 

The man that he's too shook to fight. Who? You mean who else???

 

“Broscience” ahaha. Hilarious, teddy brosavelt. Look...Diet of course plays apart in how much muscle mass someone adds when incorporated with exercising. Your calorie intake, carbs etc...that goes without question. But I’m specifically talking about the exercises an athlete does for the kind of muscular development they are looking for.

I see what you are saying. A bodybuilder is very lean...meaning bigger muscles and low body fat. A power lifter, big muscles and more body fat. You are very literal. You can still be “lean” and bulky, as it relates to body fat....but I wasn’t thinking people would take it so literal. Lol. It’s like when we call the boxing ring the “squared circle”...I hope no one actually thinks I believe a boxing ring is a cross between a square & circle.

Lean or tone muscle absolutely exist. A power lifter for instance has muscle, but it’s not as lean or tone as muscle you would see on a cyclist, swimmer or track athlete. The use of heavier weights will add more muscle mass vs using lower weights and higher repetition.

It’s not that you have less muscles...everyone has exactly the same amount of muscles in the human body. The development of those muscles with the types of exercises used will produce different results.

You can only add more mass to muscles....but you can’t magically create more muscles that weren’t there just because you have a special diet, incorporate new exercises or lift more weights. You can either make them bigger, bulkier, stonger, leaner or more tone.

 

But that's the thing... that counts the same in almost every country in the world, and has been for as long as I'm alive.
But still it gets mentioned as the reason why American heavyweight boxing does worse now as then, but we know that isn't the case.
You know how many people in my small country alone are 6'4" or over? Don't know, but a lot! And how many of them are heavyweight boxers? One!

The US still has a lot of HW boxers compared to other countries.

 

Lean and tone muscle does not exist, there is nothing that scientifically proves that in the slightest. I mean what is actually lean muscle or tone muscle then other than one guy having a lot of muscle and one guy not having as much? I mean the real science of it because nothing has ever proved there is such a thing.

Now your terminology may be poor, anyone using the term "toned" usually gets derided in the fitness world as being ignorant of what they are actually talking about. If you are using poor terminology then you need to clarify what lean muscle actually is because the way you are using it at the moment is pure rubbish.

Now you could be talking about different muscle fibers, the fast twitch and slow twitch but even the science of this specific aspect of sports science doesn't back up your claim. There is conflicting evidence that high rep, low weight and low rep and high weight has any real difference is regards to increasing the proportion of a specific type of muscle fiber. There is likely a neurological difference though as training at a specific range will mean you neurologically will activate more of a certain type of muscle fiber over another to get the type of performance response you want. But how much muscle a person has would be irrelevant as it's purely neurological.

Your example using a cyclist is flawed. Plenty of cyclists are huge, check out Chris Hoy, that guy was a physical beast in his prime. Then you have the freak Forstemann who looks more like a body builder than Joshua, just check out the link below, would you say he has lean and toned muscles or looks more like a body builder?

https://keyassets.timeincuk.net/ins...tes/2/2013/01/rev_jan5_2013_Forstermann_3.jpg

Still don't believe me then compare the physiques of Carl Lewis and Linford Christie, both sprinters, both top of their sports, both likely trained very similarly yet completely different physiques. Lewis was leaner while Christie was much more muscular. They were the same height too, so it's not like one was stocky and the other was taller and leaner. Both performed pretty much the same, trained the same but looked completely different. But according to you Lewis had lean or toned muscles and Christie bulky muscles, if that's the case how come they perform the same?