41 Yrs Old Wlad v Archie Moore 38/40

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    The Wladimir who fought Joshua v the Archie that fought Rocky ,whichever stated age you believe he was?
    15rds Who wins and how?
     
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    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Wlad. That fighting tall style with all the physical gifts that go with it are too much for Archie to try an overcome
     
  3. BCS8

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    I'll take Wlad too. He was in exceptional shape at the age and small fighters have never really troubled him. I watched his fight against Chagaev the other day; my God, Wlad whitewashed Chaggy like he was a bum. And I think Chagaev is pretty good.
     
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    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad would put him to sleep within 5 rounds without a doubt.
     
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    Wlad drills Moore.
     
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    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    no Moore was still pretty good, Wlad was game but finished.

    Moore fit enough to outlast wladdie and outpoint him, but not enough to ko him.
     
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    Wlad would be too tall for his own good and get countered by reaching down on the short Moore. People tend to forget how shot Klitchko was in the Joshua fight,slow inaccurate and moved like concrete boots.

    Moore was a terror when he fought Marciano,but keep in mind its Marciano not the glass jaw Wlad who's slow and far easier to hit.

    Moores boxing IQ and heart win here. Gets late K.O.
     
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    It's not just heart, it's also the fact that Moore has frequently faced adversity, losing to every decent heavyweight he faced (apart from the terminally lazy valdes), coming within a whisker of losing to Durelle, and getting leathered by Charles on numerous occasions. Wlad, on the other hand, beat everyone very easily for the last ten years of his career until the very end.

    Thus, the "hunger" and "heart" factors clearly favour moore.
     
  9. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I'll say Wlad, easily, though not for the usual mindless "size/boxing has evolved" reasons. Given the attributes and styles of the fighters in question, Wlad can much more easily afford to coast at this age. Moore has to work a lot harder, and has a much narrower margin for making mistakes.
     
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    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Klitchko has never faced a Light HW shorter than 6' 0 so that dynamic of punching has too be added in as well.
     
  11. mcvey

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    Christ ,how tired is this schtick becoming?
     
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    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Give it a rest, huh?
     
  13. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Did you see Joshua struggle with Takam? I guess you didn't otherwise you would see the taller Joshua having difficulties landing BC of the punch dynamic of him having to reach in on him.

    What do you think Klitchko would do when the size difference is even less in his favor BC Archie was 5' 11 not 6'2 and is an ATG unlike Takam? :hang
     
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    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Its not tiring at all,I can run on dark energy if need be. My name is Galvatron or did that fly over your head too? Pfffft.
     
  15. BCS8

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    Just went through Wlad's record a way down. These are the shortest fighters up to Jackson:

    Leapai: 6 ft
    Chambers 6'1
    Chagaev 6'1
    Byrd 6'1
    Mercer 6'1
    Eros 6'1
    Jackson 6'1

    He had NO PROBLEMS whatsoever against these shorties, in fact, they were some of his easiest defences. He peppered them with jabs like they were half price. But 1 INCH shorter Moore is going to give him fits, right? :lol:

    Keep walking Galvatron.
     
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