Joshua: Doesn't respect Fury's win over Klit, says he ran

Who wanted to rematch him? The only guy who was forced too was Brewster and Byrd. He did better in all fights coming off loses and same opponents like Byrd and Peter.

You can wish whatever you like on the Fury fight. there's also reason why Klitchko was still favored against him too going into the rematch.

 

lol ran yea he schooled him its called boxing a clinic

 

anyone with any boxing sense knows Fury's win was better, period.

 

Not always. If Joshua was out boxing Wlad before the KO, then yes, but the fact Joshua was being outboxed, makes Tyson’s win more impressive.

I thought Wlad vs Fury was not as wide as most thought, but if you did think Fury completely outboxed Wlad, then yes Fury’s win is far more impressive.

 

It depends on how you look at it. Put it this way if Joshua fought Wlad in a rematch I'm certain that Joshua would have won again. Fury? I'm not so sure. Wlad didn't even let his hands go. What if Wlad let his hands go. We all know Fury can't take the that type of power the way Joshua did. Most likely Fury would have been knocked out early.

Fury only hurt himself by dodging the rematch. This gave everyone the impression that even Fury himself thought it was a fluke and he couldn't do it again. Joshua was ready to go for the rematch with Wlad.

 

The point was, Fury beat him in a manner nobody else had, a manner that would be much harder to adjust to.

Given the opposition, this point isn't of much consequence. Wlad winning his comeback bouts after each of his earlier defeats isn't an argument for him overcoming the task of defeating a style which had already nullified and nonplussed him over the championship distance.

If you were talking about him avenging a string of defeats by demonstrating ability to adjust to troubling stylistic conundrums, your point would hold some water.

With respect, I have no need for wishful thinking. The guy I picked won clearly.

The rematch was scrapped due to issues unrelated to Fury's general confidence in his ability to defeat Wlad. I was looking forward to attending it, having missed the trip to Germany, but that's life. For what it's worth, I picked AJ to knock Wlad out (albeit earlier than it turned out) and rooted for that same result, in hopes that it would set up a first for British boxing (two British heavies, #1 and #2 in the world, boxing for all the heavyweight marbles, on British shores). No sour grapes here.

Yeah, and that reason is, oddsmakers don't actually set their odds by the probabilities per se, but by a variety of factors, including how they think bettors will wager on an outcome. Many were incredulous that the fat pikey clowned the model professional and needed to see it again to believe it. And they would've seen it again.


Fury won fairly and squarely, in a manner that cannot reasonably be construed as a fluke or a product of good fortune. He even got clear scores in Klitschko's back yard.

Many of those who were wrong about Fury gave due credit in full and embraced a revised opinion of the man's skills. Others have resorted to bitterness at being proven wrong, continually making excuses for Klitschko and themselves, when the gentlemanly recourse would be to eat their words and make the appropriate concessions.

Well, it is what it is, so to speak.

 

Well how do you rate Floyd then?....hes an ATG with very few KO's at top level.

Fury shut down Wlad...Joshua went life and death and was nearly stopped.

 

Questions.

1. How do you know Wlad would be able to get off in the rematch?

2. How do you know Fury isn't as durable as Joshua?

 

Nothing convincing outside of not being dropped, not being behind at the point of stoppage and fighting a dominant, busy champ as opposed to a guy ho hadn't fought in 18 months.

 

Great tactics by Tyson, and executed to a tee. But AJ went out and took the belt.

Tyson's win was much more methodical, but it was one of the worst HW fights EVER. AJ's was the opposite.

 

AJ was never renowned for his chin (at least, not in a good way). And one flush right hand sent him down, accordingly. When you can ride the punches, as Fury can and did vs. Wlad, why take them flush?

Fury can take a shot. The kind of punches that have dropped him are punches Wlad doesn't throw, and in positional circumstances that Fury would have been unlikely to put himself in against an opponent of Klitschko calibre.

Wlad couldn't throw much against Fury because Fury's boxing skills cut his workrate.

 

And he almost got stopped in his. In fact, a younger Wlad may have closed the deal in the 6th. Good way to build up the eventual Fury-AJ fight though.

 

Fury's win was clearly more dominant but let's be honest only die hard Fury fans have watched that fight more than once, it was a total snoozefest.

Joshua's win was basically a razor thin victory but it got people talking about the fight and did far more for Joshua as a burgeoning star than it did for Fury in regards to popularity.

People will likely talk about the Joshua/Wlad fight for years to come like Lewis/Vitali, Bowe/Holyfield, Ali/Foreman etc. Nobody will discuss fights like Fury/Wlad, Lewis/Tua, Tyson/Smith very often in the years to come.

So it really depends what your criteria of more impressive is. A more dominant win where you outclass an ATG that very few will talk or care about 10 years from now or a less convincing win that made you a star and will be talked about long after you have retired. Both were impressive but in different ways.

 

How can you not respect going to the champs backyard and winning the lineal hvw championship? Hell I thought that the fight was terrible but I do respect that he won. Joshua is a complete scumbag. He can't even become a good or bad guy because he's so stiff in everything that he does.