Biggest threats to wilder and joshua

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  1. Butch Coolidge

    Butch Coolidge Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yessir, I do think the cruiserweight division has quite a bit of talent in it. Dorticos, Gassiev and Usyk are all threats. I don't see any of the heavyweight belt holders as being dominant for a long period of time.
     
  2. SmackDaBum

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    For Wilder I see plenty of threats...

    Outside of Joshua:

    Ortiz.
    Pulev.
    Pakrer.
    Povetkin.
    Breazeale.
    Miller.
    H.Fury.
    T.Fury.
    Whyte.
    Ugonoh.
    Kuzmin.
     
  3. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Usyk can't beat either of them. He doesn't have the ability.
     
  4. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    gtfo of here with h fury, t fury, and ugonoh.
     
  5. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Wilder's chin is not the best and Hughie has enough power to keep him at bay. Also he has the same reach, similar height, great speed and better skills on top of that especially inside game.

    Tyson Fury would kill Wilder.

    Ugonoh has enough of size, speed, power and skill to reach Wilder. And I don't see His poor stamina as a problem in this fight. Wilder will not risk being hit to walk him down, so the fight would look more like the Spillka fight, besides Ugonoh has more of reach, speed and power to tag him. This is a 50/50 fight I think.
     
  6. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    tyson fury has never killed anybody. hughie fury has never beaten anyone. ugonoh??? you are either a troll or insane
     
  7. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Nah, he just understands what a glass jawed FRAUD Wilder is.
     
  8. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    I just gave you my predictions, what about yours?

    I see both strengths and weaknesses in Wilder's game. You need some mix of attributes to beat him, and I see this guys having it. Styles make fights. I can see Wilder beating Wach and wach beating Izu but then I can also see Ugonoh beating Wilder, what's the problem with that?
     
  9. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you can see what you like. wilder wipes the floor with h fury and ugoh. t fury is hard to peg, since he fought scrubs (looking like garbage) and a shot Klitschko(staring match).
     
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  10. exumspate

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    Ortiz, Povetkin, and I know most think little of him but, Parker's chin and good enough power make him a threat.
     
  11. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Look who is here. Smack and Zak lmao. Do you really care what they have to say about Wilder? Like really??? Joshua's scared stiff suspect chinned PED using ass is scared of Wilder. He's scared. He's probably scared of Parker too. Shook stiff ass. ****en coward.
     
  12. SmackDaBum

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    The only guy I though atleast had a chance against Wilder that he actually met and manage to beat was Gerald Washington. The rest of Wilder's resume is cherrypicked.

    Stiverne for an example has not the right mix of attributes to beat him. Too short and slow - Wilder's jab looked amazing. But against Washington- not nearly as good. And Washington is a very poor mans Joshua/Klitschko style of fighter.
     
  13. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i'd like to see Joshua-Wilder. i am not a huge fan of either. Wilder is a bit underrated, Joshua massively overrated. if joshua fights Parker first, no problem. if that is the case, Wilder better fight one of Breazeale, Povetkin, Ortiz, or Pulev. no idea what you mean by smack and zak.
     
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  14. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i would agree, but Wilder is hardly the only one doing this. Joshua, Both fury's, Parker, etc.
     
  15. SmackDaBum

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    Every fighter cherrypicks to a certain degree. But Parker, Fury's and Joshua have a much broader spectrum of winnable fights. Wilder's management needs more mine sweeping in order to secure a safe travel route for him.

    If I were Eddie Hearn, I would avoid Miller as an example for Joshua. What if he survives the early punishment and keeps going forward in the late rounds?

    Actually I see Jarrel Miller as a much bigger threat to Joshua than Deontay Wilder would be.
     
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