Gennady Golovkin vs. Carl Froch @ 168.

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  1. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    GGG has already fought bigger punchers than Canelo, just none with the elite level combination skills Canelo brought to the table. Canelo punches hard enough and is skilled enough to stop anyone rushing him imo. Don't get me wrong, its a tight fight, but GGG is more skilled and I think he edges it. Also hes more than a straight forward mover from middle, plus Froch never fancied it, wanted to come in at 172 for it also !
     
  2. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. Even GGG wouldn't last too long taking flush shots from Froch. I could see GGG getting a decision if he stays behind his jab the whole fight.
     
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  3. Brighton bomber

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    Hard to say who would of won. I think Golovkin was more skilled as a fighter but then Froch chewed up and spit out many fighters who were more skilled than him.

    Also we really don't know how Golovkin would cope with the extra weight, we've seen plenty of good middleweights move up and look ordinary at 168lbs, Froch beat 2 of them in AA and Taylor.

    Froch would be the best fighter GGG has fought to date including Canelo. Froch's style suits Golovkin more than Canelo's though, he wouldn't need to go looking for Froch.

    It would really come down to if GGG could hurt Froch enough. People who have put Froch down before saw him get back up and walk through everything else and then overwhelm them. If Golovkin can't stop Froch he is in serious trouble because then Froch will just look take everything and come back harder and Golovkin is easy to hit, Froch's punches may not be as hard as GGG's but they will take their toll and Froch hit harder than anyone GGG has fought to date.

    I think it would of been a battle of attrition and come down to who wanted it more and would of been a hell of a fight, probably a super middleweight version of Gatti/Ward, a total war. Still don't know who would win though.
     
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  4. uppercut_to_the_body

    uppercut_to_the_body Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Both at their prime, Froch wins by British stoppage

    Froch has 5 or 6 wins that are better than Any wins on GGG resume.
     
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  5. navigator

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    Froch's defense was keen enough when he expected trouble. He surprised a lot of people in that regard throughout his championship run - first Kessler was expected to decapitate him in Denmark, then Bute was supposed to retire him, then Groves was expected to find him as easy to hit flush in the rematch as he did in their first fight, etc.

    I'm going with Froch here. A rangy, awkward style (at his best, he engages on his terms) with underrated defensive nous, a snakingly insidious jab, good sense of timing and a very good chin. Froch is long and tricky, especially if you're a shorter, squatter man than him, and I haven't seen enough outboxing ability from Golovkin to suggest he has the recourse of winning this fight at range (I'm not among those who think that outjabbing Lemieux was a feat tantamount to Billy Graham outjabbing Carmen Basilio in '52). He has to go looking for his man in order to break him down here, and I think Froch would ultimately prove too experienced and canny with the threat of a renowned puncher in front of him.

    Froch jabs, moves, slips, spoils and ambushes his way to victory, only letting his hands go in timely staccato bursts and then stepping away, as Golovkin has shown that he's prone to standing with his guard up and letting guys take their turn rather than attempting to counter (it'd be challenging to counter the rangier Froch's bursts, anyway).
     
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  6. dinovelvet

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    Golovkin is susceptible to Carls cobra jab /right hand .. and he's a sucker for an uppercut. He's going to be eating those punches non-stop against a guy bigger , stronger and more powerful than anybody he's ever fought.
    Imagine a SMW Kell Brook?? Golovkin would have been slaughtered.
    After watching him against Jacobs and Canelo , i see it as being a bad match-up for Golovkin.

    Plus Froch had one foot in retirement by the time GGG came calling. After the Groves fights it was Chavez or retirement. If GGG wanted Carl , he should have called him out when he was active instead of when he was retired.
    They were still calling out Froch even after he got his new nose ffs.
     
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  7. BCS8

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    Lest we forget, this was Froch's opinion of Golovkin:

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    Does it really need to be spelled out more than that?
     
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  8. GolovKing

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    BCS8 is correct, although we don't know what GGG is at 168.
    My guess is GGG would outbox Froch for a 116-112 victory.
     
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  9. navigator

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    Froch's dry humor always did sail over a lot of heads. The man's record of taking on challenges speaks for itself, and Golovkin got all he could handle from fighters notably smaller (Canelo) and notably lesser (Jacobs) than Froch. Carl already had one foot in retirement when K2 got around to proposing a fight with him, he can be wholly forgiven for walking away.
     
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  10. CathyBarry

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    I'm a GGG fan but Froch would be hell for him, i could see Froch stopping him late after a war. I know GGG hasn't been stopped and put down but he hasn't fought a guy like Froch.
     
  11. Nonito Smoak

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    Tough and unfair to say since we haven't ever seen Golovkin at 168.
     
  12. fistsof steel

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    Froch wanted none of Him...end of story.!!!
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  13. BCS8

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    Look that's fair enough ... if Froch felt that he was done then he was done. But after he "retired" he kept lipping off about how he was too big and strong for Golovkin etc etc and when Golovkin told him to step up he hid behind his wife's skirt. I can't understand why he did that. Either he knew that he was going to get his ass beaten or he was just talking because his ego wouldn't let him keep still. It's annoying to me because I think Froch looked in fantastic shape and that he still had enough left in the tank to give us a great fight against Golovkin. I was looking forward to that fight.
     
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  14. GolovKing

    GolovKing ESB Since 2006 Full Member

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    Me too. When Froch was still fighting, he was one of my top 5 or 3 favorite fighters.
     
  15. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You guys are talking about Froch as if he was superman


    He was outboxed by Taylor before landing that lucky punch

    Dirrel was robbed against him

    Ward schooled him

    Groves was beating him in the 1st fight before the intervention by the referee.

    His most impressive wins were against Kessler (war.....on home ground) and against Glen Johnson and Arthur Abraham.