Gennady Golovkin vs. Carl Froch @ 168.

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Quite easily, how?

    We've never seen him fight at SMW.

    He's recently struggled with Danny Jacobs.

    How do we know he'd have steamrollered Taylor?
     
  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Great post.

    I definitely thought he lost to Andre Dirrell though.
     
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  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I respectfully disagree he was elite. He was elite at 168 and a top 10 p4p fighter. Also froch will probably go into the hof.
     
  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    My definition of elite are guys like Andre and Floyd etc. But fair enough, everyone's criteria is different.

    He was elite, as in he was in the top 3 of his division, so yeah, you can call him elite if you want. I've no issue with that.
     
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  5. SnatchBox

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    Froch was similar size to Jacobs if not bigger. Long rangey with a stiff jab, Big puncher, solid chin with great recovery skills.

    I think Froch would beat GGG too big too skilled, Golovkin could have made 154 in his prime.

    Froch always gets underrated he was a beast though.
     
  6. Aussie Invader

    Aussie Invader Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    gotta disagree
    when you think of elite at 168, you think of andre ward and joe Calzaghe
    fighters like froch and Kessler were the best of the rest
     
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  7. alexland

    alexland student of the sweet science Full Member

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    hard to argue with this

    who would win?

    well, we can all speculate, but the fact is that both fighters in this fantasy match-up agreed on the outcome:

    GGG obviously believes he would have won; and apparently Froch agreed with him.


    Froch called out GGG in 2015

    GGG responded by accepting the challenge

    GGG agreed to fight Froch at 168+, and agreed to a UK venue.

    he then ordered his promoter to begin negotiations for the fight

    Froch went silent

    Froch is oddly obsessed with GGG--eg, several times, since his retirement, he mentions GGG via Twitter.
     
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  8. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You missed the keyword in my statement which was "PRIME", If you think GGG is still in his prime you don't know much about GGG.
     
  9. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I said "PRIME" 2011 version of GGG beats Froch quite easily for the reasons I already stated. Prime Froch would struggle with Danny Jacobs by the way, he struggled like **** against slick guys.
     
  10. Pimp C

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    Prime ggg would struggle with Kessler Pascal dirrell and flat out gets clowned by ward.:deal: there is nothing to suggest that ggg beats froch quite easily.
     
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  11. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    That's the version who got hit entirely too much by a faded, blown-up Kassim Ouma.

    And I am aware that Ouma lost and went to the hospital afterwards - when two durable guys eat large quantities of one another's punches, it's usually the bigger puncher that prevails (especially when he's the fresher man).
     
  12. Ilikeboxing

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    Prime Kessler would beat GGG, prime Kessler without Ward's heabutts beats Andre Ward as well. Prime GGG vs the Kessler who faced Ward, I'd slightly favour GGG as Kessler was past his best. GGG knocks out both Dirrells, even now. Pascal would be an interesting fight, he's still losing on the cards to 2011 GGG just from being outworked. I've always fancied Ward to beat GGG at 168lbs, I'm not a fanboy who thinks GGG is unstoppable. I'd favour GGG at a 164lb CW though.
     
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  13. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    I don't really see any significant decline in Golovkin, anyway. He's pretty much a model pro who lives well and never depended on extraordinary speed or reflex, his gas tank is still good. The resistance level has just gone up a bit from fringe caliber guys like Macklin and Geale.
     
  14. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    GGG could have won that fight on the back-foot if he wanted to, you must know that right? He walks through people's punches to finish them off, that's his fan pleasing style. Of course he's going to get tagged, did Ouma hurt him, has anybody hurt him?
     
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  15. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    GGG's power has slightly declined, that's obvious.