Gennady Golovkin The Lost Art Of Shifting

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  1. Butch Coolidge

    Butch Coolidge Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Eventually some trainer is going to train his fighter in how to deal with "shifting" and turn the shifting into "passing" and passing gets you knocked on your butt. There's a reason why it was lost.
     
  2. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Mike Tyson could shift.
     
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  3. Mr Logic

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    Yet all the top Russian and EE fighters are having great success with it
     
  4. Nay_Sayer

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    Sergey Kovalev?
     
  5. Butch Coolidge

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    Yes. That eventually part, you know. But you just can't argue with physics and physiology. Somebody is going to figure out to bait the shifty guy into shifting by taking a short step backwards and when the other guy's feet are even with each other, they'll scoot forward just a bit off the back foot and nail him while his feet are in a bad position. I imagine that's the reason why people quit doing it.
     
  6. Angler Andrew

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    Oh the guy can Box for sure and yet even now he has his detractors for winning over twelve rounds
     
  7. Mr Logic

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    why would his feet be in a bad position? if hes just switched stance but is nicely balanced what is the problem? its the top guys who are doing this so they understand where there is risk to do it. they arnt just aimlessly walking forward nit expecting their opponent to try and counter. a lot of the time i see shifting is when they double up the jab knocking their apponent off balance so their opponent cant manouvre hid feet to counter.
     
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  9. Butch Coolidge

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    They're in a bad position because they can easily lose their balance when one foot passes the other. Thus far, the guys who use shifting have been getting away with it because they shift when the opponent is retreating. One day, somebody is going to figure out that feinting a retreat can beat them into shifting. Sort of like the tactic of bringing the jab back low.
     
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  10. Butch Coolidge

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    It's not switching stances that is the dangerous part, it's taking a step that looks like a normal step--no shuffle or glide.
     
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  11. Reg

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    A shift is done while throwing a punch. If you're saying shifting will stop because they can be potentially countered than they might as well quit throwing punches altogether.
     
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  12. alexland

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    indeed, a great rivaly between two fearless champions.

    and it's not like that rivalry have had to wait for years--as happens so often in this sport with--in fact, Pirog and GGG, each was eager to fight the other

    the essential terms had been agreed to and it had been publicized; it only fell through when Pirog injured his back during training, and injury was so serious he announced his retirement shortly after pulling out, and hasn't fought since.
     
  13. Butch Coolidge

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    A counter punch does not automatically jeopardize balance like shifting. I don't think shifting was something that was accidentally forgotten.
     
  14. Reg

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    Shifting was never forgotten and it doesn't jeopardize balance anyway. You are never planted when both feet are side by side and even if you were what does that matter. You fight feet side by side in many combat sports. They have fine balance.
     
  15. Butch Coolidge

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    ohhh-kay