Most skilled fighter ever.

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  1. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lomachenko. Can beat you on front foot or back foot. Go back watch some of his amateur fights and how he makes guys like Verdejo look like bums.
     
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  2. Jakyll

    Jakyll flat foot Full Member

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    SRR and SRL
    Leonard had the speed and the finisher instinct.
    RR had the punching power and that perfect balance.
     
  3. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sugar Ray Leonard or Thomas Hearns when Hearns decided not to go for a knockout.
     
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  4. Daddy

    Daddy Active Member Full Member

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    Most skilled means boxers that have it all. Great Offense, Defense, movement, power, chin, adaptation. Some boxers have massive offensive skills but lack chin. Some boxers have unbelievable defense but lack power. Some boxers have power but lack movement/adaptation. ETC
    Here is who I think "had it all". Sugar Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray Leonard, Ricardo Lopez, Cassius Clay, and Floyd Mayweather JR.
     
  5. minemax

    minemax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But chin is not a skill! Even boxers with entire glass chins should be considered as candidates for the Most skilled fighter ever award.
     
  6. Daddy

    Daddy Active Member Full Member

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    You're right. Chin is not a skill. But how many fighters can you name that is considered Most skilled that gets KO'd often? Khan? Nice display of offense, par defense, good movement, but not "Most Skilled" IMO. Sure some of the boxers I mentioned above has been KO'd - It happens in the sport. I guess chin and good defense go hand and hand to some degree.
     
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    minemax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We're talking about most skilled boxers not the best boxers, right?
    I would agree on the point that it is quite hard to be a very good boxer with a very weak chin in real life. But the fun part is that, theoretically the most skilled fighter actually almost should have a glass chin. :) I mean like he would compensate on that by having amazing skills. :)
     
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    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hearns for me, I mean who out boxes SRL? His height, reach, speed, power, jab, right hand, movement, body punching etc. There were better technical fighters and more complete boxers like Leonard, SRR, Mayweather etc but when you combine his skill set with that height and reach and you have one of the best pure boxers we've ever seen. If only he had a better chin.
     
  9. Daddy

    Daddy Active Member Full Member

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    LOL, i'm now rethinking my posting skills.
     
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    Neebur Active Member Full Member

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    Roberto Duran, Ray Robinson, Benny and Ray Leonard, Sal Sanchez.
     
  11. JL Fighter

    JL Fighter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Magic Man Paulie Malignaggi
     
  12. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    OP forgot to add except Nichols.
     
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  13. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Floyd Mayweather had far more skill than Holy.
     
  14. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Mayweather was better defensively than Leonard, he wan`t as open counter rights and dealt with the jab better.
     
  15. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Robinson got hit more than Floyd and was being out-jabbed by Lamotta for 10 rounds before he stopped him in their final match up. Robi and Floyd were more skilled than Fury is!