The round robin debate when talking Joshua, Wilder and Parker

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    The round robin debate when talking Joshua, Wilder and Parker
    People mention purse splits, pricing themselves out, being greedy, not wanting the fight etc on all sides, so below is a post on another thread, but I wanted some explanation from the knowledgeable posters



    Im no expert on these issues but I see it in a similar way from my understanding.

    For example
    If fighter A normally gets 8mil in their fights and thats 80% of the pot
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    fighter B normally gets 2mil in their fights and thats 80% of the pot,
    decide to face each other and the overall pot is 10mil its doubtful to me that things would be 50/50.
    If fighter A & B were to face each other and fighter B was getting 3.5mil even though it not be their usual 50% it would be more than they normally get

    So the question with that example would be who is at fault?

    Does that make sense?


    It could be that it doesnt work at all that way and this post is complete rubbish but hopefully people get what I mean?
     
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  2. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What is happening here is that Deontay who earns $1 million a fight for fighting the rastaman or the carnival fat clown, thinks that because he has a WWE belt, that entitles him to 50-50. Even though even a 30-70 split would give him 8 times his normal pay.

    Most sane men would take the money for the fight and lose gracefully and then disappear into obscurity.

    However Deontay has a massive ego and he also has a very poor understanding of maths. I put it down to the bad education offered in the US in black neighbourhoods.

    If I was in Deontays position I would take the money. But I understand Maths at aged 9 years old level and above.
     
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  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thank you for posting

    Anyone have any links to anything to clear up the issue?
     
  4. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol: Nope, but I've been asking the same thing. Basically: What is the standard practice?

    Since you're interested too I'll look into it myself.
     
  5. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thank you.
    I was hoping someone on here would be able to explain
     
  6. underwraps

    underwraps Active Member Full Member

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    Agree with some of that.But bong squad don't want any bit of AJ.He refused to fight Whyte for at least 2x his best payday,unless AJ was in the deal.If Hearn would of agreed,then Wilder would of put in the 50/50 bit and after Hearn ruled it out, both fights wouldn't go ahead..So for some reason he don't fancy Whyte or AJ..
    Funny thing is for me he KO's Whyte and is 50/50 with AJ.He has the engine,the power and a speed advantage over AJ imho,but looses out in the chin and skill department to AJ.Could be a case of whoever lands flush first.
     
  7. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Honestly, this is going to take more research than I anticipated. you can read regulations and get stuff like this:

    if contestant A has had his last 3 purses of $500,000, $400,000, and $300,000 (a total of $1,200,000) and contestant B has had his last 3 purses of 1,000,000, $2,000,000, and $2,500,000 (a total of $5,500,000) the purse division would be 20% for contestant A and 80% for contestant B (as the ratio of the purses is $1,200,000/$6.700,000 or 17.91% for contestant A to $5,500,000/$6,700,000 or 82.09% for contestant B and the purse division cannot be more that 80/20.

    but then when you cross that with actual practice 75-25 seems to pop up the most. If it's an important fight you tend to see more 60-40, and sometimes you see a 50-50, but that seems like it's mostly pitched just to achieve 60-40. Like they start at 80-20, but everyone knows it's going to be 75-25 most of the time so sometimes when the B side has a bargaining chip they put forward 50-50 instead of the expected 75-25 and agree to 60-40. Sometimes the A-side doesn't want to play games and just accepts a 50-50. Sometimes the bodies demand a 50-50.

    I suppose I could gather a bunch of purses off boxrec or some such and post them to let youse decide for yourselves what the average is, but from best I can tell there is no standard and whatever is used most often is anecdotal, trivial, and coincidental not an industry standard.
     
  8. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    For sure
     
  9. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Don’t know the ins and outs but Hearn does and right now he’s paying way more than any other promoter in the HW division.
     
  10. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Wilder is asking 50/50 because he wants to price himself out of the fight! Don't you get it? Wilder does not want to fight Joshua, he is afraid! Parker was willing to take only 35, but Joshua wants him to fight for free................I don't blame Parker if he walks away from that fight. Wilder will never fight a legit fighter unless it can be fixed................Wilder knows his limitations.................
     
  11. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good work