Why isn't Deontay Wilder famous/huge in America yet?

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  1. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Baffling isn’t the word cause we talking about a guy who says it’s not about the money it’s about Legacy and yet at the same time says four million isn’t enough and also wants 50/50 split with AJ.........go figure,I seriously think he’s got a screw loose lol.
     
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  2. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    I'm starting to think so. He's also completely up his own backside and an idiot to boot.

    But the Whyte situation just makes me wonder what the hell Wilder actually wants out of his career. It's an incredibly easy fight that earns him a career high payday and opens up the lucrative UK market to him. I mean I thought Wilder was all about making the most money from the least work, but know I haven't the foggiest idea.
     
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  3. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think it’s as simple as he’s been carefully matched his whole career,given a mandatory who had no business being there so why change now kind of thing.
    I keep asking his fans to tell me a fight where he wasn’t 80/20 favourite to win never mind 50/50.
    I also think Whyte would be easy work but it would still be his best opponent to date and probably presents just too much of a threat to him cause how else can you explain him turning down four million with a guaranteed AJ fight afterwards,just doesn’t make sense.
    Anyway he’s as predictable as they come and just like we all knew him n Ortiz was bull **** and Stiverne was always gonna be the opponent so it is with his next fight,I’m calling it now,expect Breazeale to be no 2 in the WBC rankings,his next opponent will be Breazeale one of AJs leftovers,still he will be the best he’s fought so I’m not knocking him if he fights him as I’ve lowered my expectations with Wilder,no point hoping for him to fight a top ten opponent now but just as long as fights somebody,anybody.
     
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    Well to be fair to him he was 50-50 against Stiverne the first time round. Stiverne was actually the slight favourite if I remember correctly since Wilder was such an unproven commodity.

    Thing with the Whyte fight is it's a really winnable fight for Wilder and earns him a ton of dough and exposure yet he'd rather take on someone like Breazeale for a fraction of the purse in some backwoods in Alabama. I could understand if it was a risk vs reward thing, but it's not. Breazeale might even be a tougher proposition due to his greater height and general toughness. So why not fight Whyte and make some easy coin in the process and improve his standing at the negotiating table with Joshua if he decides to cash out? It makes no logical sense.

    Wilder must be completely perverse or a control freak of epic proportions. That's about the only way I could understand his actions.
     
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  5. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    The whole Wildergate is such a mess.

    First of all: WBC and Haymon doesn't wanna put Wilder against non american and/or risky fights.

    But why do they protect him? What is he worth? He is no cash cow by any means.

    Are they still wanna sell him to the public as the real deal? But then how can they do that if they never give him a proper fight?

    Do they really think the public to be that stupid?

    I mean they haven't made any progress with him for the last 3 years. What is gonna change that? Their HW Project just turned 32... - A fighter that only survives on his youth and natural abilities...



    They want to keep the belt after a potential loss? Why didn't he fight Ortiz then?

    They want a cashout fight? Why the hell didn't they made the AJ fight then?! I think they will regret it bad, such a big mistake...


    WHAT IS THEIR PLAN?!

    Ruin boxing??

    Explain the Wilder masterplan please!
     
  6. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    American's don't embrace mediocrity.
     
  7. tommyg6

    tommyg6 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have no idea why Haymon protects Wilder. It's not like he's a cash cow or his brand is growing or is making money for Haymon.

    Does Haymon not like money? he continually overpay his PBC fighters while taking financial losses and for what?

    I have to question his business sense or lack of.
     
  8. rapscalion

    rapscalion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No one cares about boxing here besides Mayweather and Pacquiao. plus his style is ugly and the level of opposition is ****. Heavyweight scene has been dead for years here.
     
  9. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Tell that to Justin Bieber, Nicky Minaj, and the Kardashians.
     
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    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Alright, you got me there. Deontay needs better management?
     
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  11. Rockradar

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    I think its for 3 reasons:
    1. Wilders boxing ability. He didn't come through the amateur system as a junior like the other more respected champions and so the boxing community there in the states aren't too convinced Deontays the best that they've produced.
    2. Wilder doesn't hold all the belts. Americans know the difference between being the champion and the undisputed champion and its been awhile since they've had all the belts. So at this stage they continue to wait.
    3. M.M.A
    I like Wilder and respect him as a champion. I don't think he has fought the opposition that can take him to the next level. I think his flaws are quite alarming but he hasn't loss despite having those flaws exploited. Two victorious fights will fix his popularity in America and we know who those fights are. That will help him gain the respect he wants from his country.
     
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    Him trying to fight Charlie Zelenoff is a good example of why he's not big. Just a bit amateur in the head.. annoying. I want to seee that JOshua fight, but he's just annoying a bit. Dont take him too seriously